From: Bastien <bzg@gnu.org>
To: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
Cc: 42 147 <aeuster@gmail.com>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: converting people to Emacs and org-mode
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 11:50:15 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87obdom3s8.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <80250278-A37A-4F8E-9414-51241E8A06B9@gmail.com> (Carsten Dominik's message of "Tue, 9 Apr 2013 10:48:06 +0200")
Hi John,
interesting topic.
My take on this is that *individual* attempts can be deceptive
(for reasons that Suvayu raised), but *collective* attempts are
always somehow successful.
By "individual attempts" I mean face-to-face demos and preaching,
which can help some Emacs users discover how they could use Emacs
more effectively for notes and TODO lists, but will surely fail at
convincing non-Emacs users.
(Oh, btw, the above is not entirely true: I recently participated
to a Vim-dedicated informal group, where I picked up many useful Vim
tricks, and I was surprised to see that many Vimers just love Org's
tables --- to the point that they have tricks to display Org tables
in Vim buffers...)
By "collective attempts", I mean contributions to the vast pool of
Org tutorials/demos/screencasts. This is how we ensure potential
users will get an impression that "this is easy to do with Org",
which is the main feeling you need to have to test it.
Think of it as "low floor, high ceilings": power users push for
higher ceilings, while neebies push for low floors. We can deal
with high ceilings by interacting on the list, but we are better
at lowering floors by contributing with tutorials, blog entries,
etc.
Just try to write something simple, it may convert more people
you know that oral preaching near the coffee machine :)
My 2 cents of course,
--
Bastien
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-04-09 9:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-04-09 8:10 converting people to Emacs and org-mode 42 147
2013-04-09 8:29 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-04-09 8:47 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2013-04-13 8:16 ` Karl Voit
2013-04-09 8:46 ` Thorsten Jolitz
2013-04-09 8:51 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-04-09 10:21 ` Moritz Ulrich
2013-04-09 10:30 ` Thorsten Jolitz
2013-04-09 11:05 ` Torsten Wagner
2013-04-22 14:26 ` Eric S Fraga
2013-04-22 15:20 ` Loyall, David
2013-04-22 17:11 ` Bastien
2013-04-22 19:35 ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-04-22 20:03 ` John Hendy
2013-04-23 5:19 ` Achim Gratz
2013-04-23 6:38 ` Thorsten Jolitz
2013-04-22 21:50 ` Samuel Wales
2013-04-23 7:29 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-04-23 9:01 ` OT: Emacs screen colors (was: converting people to Emacs and org-mode) Karl Voit
2013-04-23 9:28 ` converting people to Emacs and org-mode Eric S Fraga
2013-04-23 9:37 ` Jude DaShiell
2013-04-23 9:48 ` Eric S Fraga
2013-04-09 11:40 ` Bastien
2013-04-09 8:48 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-04-09 9:50 ` Bastien [this message]
2013-04-09 10:03 ` Russell Adams
2013-04-09 12:27 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2013-04-09 15:31 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2013-04-09 16:28 ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-04-12 22:17 ` Eric Schulte
2013-04-09 18:33 ` Loyall, David
2013-04-09 18:42 ` Chris Gray
2013-04-09 14:42 ` Gunnar Wolf
2013-04-09 21:03 ` Marcin Borkowski
2013-04-09 20:59 ` Marcin Borkowski
2013-04-09 22:26 ` John Hendy
2013-04-10 12:03 ` Doug Lewan
2013-04-13 8:43 ` Karl Voit
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-04-09 23:59 42 147
2013-04-10 7:37 ` Bastien
2013-04-10 10:01 ` Suvayu Ali
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