From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Eric Schulte Subject: Re: managing articles in my personal library, and their citational material, using org mode instead of bibtex Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 20:37:15 -0700 Message-ID: <87ob5f7nh0.fsf@gmail.com> References: <528AC19F.3000803@binghamton.edu> <528B2149.5040702@wilkesley.net> <87vbzo8ikr.fsf@gmail.com> <528C22F0.1030606@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59565) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ViycL-0005uG-7W for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 22:38:20 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ViycH-0002tE-Fe for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 22:38:17 -0500 Received: from mail-pa0-x235.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::235]:56646) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ViycH-0002tA-4r for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 22:38:13 -0500 Received: by mail-pa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id hz1so6138302pad.40 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 19:38:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <528C22F0.1030606@gmail.com> (Alan L. Tyree's message of "Wed, 20 Nov 2013 13:48:16 +1100") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Alan L Tyree Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Alan L Tyree writes: > On 20/11/13 03:25, Eric Schulte wrote: >> Ian Barton writes: >> >>> On 19/11/13 01:40, Christopher W. Ryan wrote: >>>> Not sure "citational" is even a word, but hopefully it conveys my meaning! >>>> >>>> I've been using LaTeX for academic writing and reading for quite some >>>> time, with emacs as my editor. I'm pretty familiar with managing a .bib >>>> file containing all the references I've collected, and using it in LaTeX >>>> \cite commands. >>>> >>>> I've come to org-mode more recently. I'm trying to imagine how I might >>>> use it to manage my "personal library." I have a directory full of pdf >>>> files, each a downloaded article. Some articles I reference in papers I >>>> write; others I just read and want to keep. I also have a .bib file >>>> where I put the citational material for all those articles. Whenever I >>>> download an article, I add its entry to my .bib file. I tend to manage >>>> this with JabRef because it searches Medline so easily, but I also will >>>> edit the .bib file directly when necessary. >>>> >>>> I like the idea of an org file containing the citational information >>>> (authors, title, journal, etc) *plus* links to the pdfs on my hard >>>> drive, or on the internet. I could also include my notes about the >>>> articles. But what would that org file look like? How do I insert a >>>> reference to an article into the org file which contains the article I >>>> am writing? >>>> >>>> I'd be grateful for any explanations, or links to tutorials. >>>> >>> Can't help with managing the citations in org, as the last time I had >>> to do this I was using a card index file:) >>> >>> However, to address your other questions one way of doing this would >>> be to create an org file with a heading for each article: >>> >>> * Article 1. >>> Here are some notes. >>> >>> * Article 2 >>> My notes >>> >> I've been using such an org file for most of grad school and I couldn't >> be happier with the results. I have a single reading.org file with one >> top-level entry for each article I read. Currently at 533 articles >> (many still tagged TODO) and 16,558 lines. >> >> To create each headline, I first copy the bibtex information onto my >> clipboard, then I call `org-bibtex-yank' which converts the bibtex >> information into a headline with properties. E.g., >> >> * Software mutational robustness >> :PROPERTIES: >> :TITLE: Software mutational robustness >> :BTYPE: article >> :CUSTOM_ID: schulte2013software >> :YEAR: 2013 >> :ISSN: 1389-2576 >> :JOURNAL: Genetic Programming and Evolvable Machines >> :DOI: 10.1007/s10710-013-9195-8 >> :URL: http://dx.doi.org/10.1007/s10710-013-9195-8 >> :PUBLISHER: Springer US >> :KEYWORDS: Mutational robustness; Genetic programming; Mutation testing; Proactive diversity; N-version programming; Neutral landscapes >> :AUTHOR: Schulte, Eric and Fry, ZacharyP. and Fast, Ethan and Weimer, Westley and Forrest, Stephanie >> :PAGES: 1-32 >> :LANGUAGE: English >> :END: >> file:papers/10.1007_s10710-013-9195-8.pdf >> >> The arXiv preprint is up at http://arxiv.org/abs/1204.4224. >> >> More notes... >> > > Is there some easy way to import entire bibtex files in this way? > org-bibtex-import-from-file > > I find citations to be frustrating. Is there some way that bibtex (or > org files such as the above) can be used to enter citations in an org > file so that they are exported correctly by the different exporters? > > Or is there someplace where all this information is gathered and I > just am too blind to see it? > I don't know, I personally use org-bibtex-export-to-kill-ring to convert citations to bibtex individually and manually. > > Thanks for any help. > Alan > > -- Eric Schulte https://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte PGP: 0x614CA05D