From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Josiah Schwab Subject: Re: link interfering with brackets when abbreviated Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 19:41:31 -0800 Message-ID: <87ob1oosno.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87ppm9sxoh.fsf@gmail.com> <87lhwxswby.fsf@gmail.com> <87ha7lsu5o.fsf@gmail.com> <8761o1n63t.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <8738j5snms.fsf@gmail.com> <87vbw11o3q.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87ppm8rgrf.fsf@gmail.com> <87lhwwgqe4.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <878uswqfzc.fsf@gmail.com> <87zjl9vjw4.wl@dns1.atmark-techno.com> <87ha7hpt6l.fsf@gmail.com> <87wqgdv48n.wl@dns1.atmark-techno.com> <87mwh9nf6h.fsf@gmail.com> <87wqgcka56.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87y50sn09o.fsf@gmail.com> <878ussk3c7.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55151) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WKJlM-0007uu-OO for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Mar 2014 22:42:05 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WKJlE-0003fa-BC for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Mar 2014 22:41:56 -0500 In-reply-to: <878ussk3c7.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Bastien Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, michael.ch.brand@gmail.com, Nicolas Goaziou , Yasushi SHOJI Hi All, > Yes. In the meantime, other users' voices can help us step back and > see things differently. (For reference: I have been using org-mode -- for TODO lists and note taking -- for a few years now, but have not contributed code.) I imagine myself as a naive user (which does not take too much) who does not know the internal structure of org and its syntax. If I execute org-open-at-point at the start of a line with a link and get the message "No link at point", I think "Ah, I need to move point onto the link." I do and all is good. So I find myself in Nicholas' camp in regards to the discussion of org-open-at-point. I think any pains -- which seem to be quite minor -- associated with the change in behavior are worth the gains in uniformity and clarity. And here I am thinking here not only about my day-to-day use of org-mode, but also of my (slow) journey towards understanding more about how it works. But if my point is on a link in a comment, and I do org-open-at-point, and get the message "No link at point", then I think, "But why? I am on something that looks like a link". So in regards to the discussion of links in comments, I see more clearly the argument Bastien, Michael, etc. are making. But I am unsure here how to judge whether the benefits outweigh the costs. Perhaps that is helpful; perhaps not! Best Regards, Josiah