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From: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
To: stardiviner <numbchild@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [SOLVED] Re: [PATCH] Show hidden drawers when org-cycle on headlines
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 12:31:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o8rnwyvh.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877dybx2mj.fsf@gmail.com> (stardiviner's message of "Sun, 19 Apr 2020 17:10:12 +0800")

Hello,

stardiviner <numbchild@gmail.com> writes:

> I thought intuitively that property drawers "mostly expanded" and regular
> drawers like :LOGBOOK: drawer "mostly folded".

There is no such thing as ":LOGBOOK:" drawers. There are property
drawers, and regular drawers. "LOGBOOK" belongs to the latter.

>> Another (better?) option would be: "don't mess with folding state" for
>> regular drawers and blocks, i.e., what is open stays open, what is
>> closed stays closed. But that's more difficult to achieve. Any taker?
>
> This indeed will be more difficult. I agree. It's not worth to be more
> complicated.

I think it is worth it, because it is a sane way to handle different
needs.

>> In any case, I think property drawers need to be "mostly folded".
>
> In my opinion, this design is decided by the usage of properties drawers and
> other regular drawers. For now, I only used this two drawers.

Property drawers are _internal_ to Org, which means the contents are to
be hidden. You can use property drawers, but think of them as
a database. Seeing the guts of a database is hardly useful. However, Org
provides tooling to read and write it, and even display it (e.g., Org
Colview) without having to expand them.

You may want to expand them to edit them, or simply retrieve
information, it is all text after all, but that's not the intended use
case, so there is no incentive to expand them automatically.


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou


  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-19 10:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-11  8:43 [PATCH] Show hidden drawers when org-cycle on headlines stardiviner
2020-04-11 16:05 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-13  3:29   ` stardiviner
2020-04-13  8:06     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-13 16:28       ` stardiviner
2020-04-13  9:12     ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-04-13 16:31       ` [SOLVED] " stardiviner
2020-04-13 16:58         ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-04-13 20:00           ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-13 23:19             ` Tim Cross
2020-04-14  3:18             ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-04-14 12:58               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-14 13:57                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-04-14  5:21             ` stardiviner
2020-04-14 12:55               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-15  1:13                 ` stardiviner
2020-04-18 17:48                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-19  9:10                     ` stardiviner
2020-04-19 10:31                       ` Nicolas Goaziou [this message]
2020-04-19 11:31                         ` stardiviner
2020-04-13 20:52 ` Samuel Wales
2020-04-15  1:26 ` [SOLUTION] " stardiviner

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