From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id ON1tCZw4ZGAhqQAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2021 10:53:48 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id YOprA5w4ZGCuZgAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2021 08:53:48 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F96824ECB for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2021 10:53:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:38500 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lRWbh-0004kC-Uu for larch@yhetil.org; Wed, 31 Mar 2021 04:53:45 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37968) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lRWbM-0004k4-Gz for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Mar 2021 04:53:24 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:56355) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lRWbK-00087h-68; Wed, 31 Mar 2021 04:53:23 -0400 Received: from [2a01:e34:ec2b:7150:5f03:783:637:65fb] (port=53182 helo=guerry) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lRWbI-0000j7-HI; Wed, 31 Mar 2021 04:53:21 -0400 Received: by guerry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 359991A60F31; Wed, 31 Mar 2021 10:53:18 +0200 (CEST) From: Bastien To: Kyle Meyer Subject: Re: org-adapt-indentation not honored prior to Org 9.4? References: <21418.1616441853@alto> <87tuot2tv7.fsf@kyleam.com> <87pmzhi7wp.fsf@gmail.com> <87eefw2c4x.fsf@kyleam.com> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 10:53:18 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87eefw2c4x.fsf@kyleam.com> (Kyle Meyer's message of "Wed, 31 Mar 2021 00:14:06 -0400") Message-ID: <87o8ez4sch.fsf@bzg.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Tim Cross , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1617180827; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=Vzxog4eWULEMioIwObAOB66QSFuHQ+dXI5GF6MvIrKQ=; b=b6DkdFtjzQkarMs4ZzccireglU5PE0xhSPhr97Jfmdmo8LoikVgXSHFeM4KGpWkprgXgXZ u6COtUhcUlk4SC9mjKu9HtEWMbUvTnAtmUxxtu+JHA70vjofPuTp4qWDK8J/7iPqgPnX1I 7qdByNN0s2QPSKnQC8Q4BS1y4Iy38LHNNSA3H5tI798cxnjqfoCfZWw16ht0Dzn4RKHZu/ DW8dGtxoZjh/mS2EtcCSwT0Ka3pTCQUpg1q0YZxMPO4/bGgJBgl/ckelvVnTIUYVXLD93k RxoeBdECuQUhTcfSt7HTC6r9jKL1bpwTSdxlP4/w3cbFqyjfWKnDaC2av1uigQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1617180827; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=cmoOc26c8r0LlJ9N8+xlrVIBwrMiFM2ob3cJsNI8kbyaX8j8e4F/r76MmtQyeWDpvnjCgi Pn+f8ZCOVBeeqU+P46vBj++9CVdgcqgHbYUlToO6Zzjj86qRYWWnGDigxax6UMO0FPpDfC hnXa5+4FI+zgLfZ73r64Y6InTglRBhowNVmSMy4JRqjjhvPDn2l7Y+EdKXHPOFTq3KOZbw g0jk6UIZco4uGS5aoa5SC4c5ZirTTL04udxLKDwKUMh9ywKfaWNEGFl5D2y6plFJwcS6DL tTdNC8a8GqlEzuG54FIYIYd157xXxr4g/PRW+dNDSjs+TxctgEnUXLf+SGXltg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.92 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 8F96824ECB X-Spam-Score: -1.92 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: WKcPNjmjAk7c Hi, Kyle Meyer writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >> one thing I think might help (maybe too late) would be to put the >> entries for both electric-indent-mode and org-adapt-indentation so that >> they are together in the release notes as they do interact with each >> other and often people stop looking once they see one and not the other >> (they are currently a fair 'distance' apart in the file). > > Thanks for the suggestion. I'm not sure that it will help, but it's > easy to do, at least in the Git repo [*], so I've done so in > d017cdb0a. Thanks for doing this. > [*] That of course won't be in effect for the file included with Emacs > 27.2. It also won't be at . > Cc'ing Bastien in case he thinks updating 9.4's Changes.html is > worth it. The overall discussion convinced me that `nil' is probably a better default for `org-adapt-indentation' (instead of `t') so I suggest we wait for the 9.5 changelog to promote these clarifications. (I generally don't like the idea of revising the changelog after the release even if we had and may well accept exceptions.) -- Bastien