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Dye wrote: > The org manual and various documents on Worg appear to use the subject terms as > synonyms for running a bit of source code and gathering its result. Is there a > useful distinction that this non-software engineer is missing? Or, are the > terms simply synonymous? To me, the term "evaluate" suggests that the piece of code returns a value that one is interested in, while "execute" suggest that the code has some side effect and doesn't return a value (or one that is ignored). Though I doubt this is a very firm distinction that is strictly adhered to. For practical purposes, you can probably consider them synonymous. -- Joost Kremers Life has its moments