From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id 4CvGKD7FpGEoCQAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2021 13:19:10 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id gF5wJD7FpGEOLwAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2021 12:19:10 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 343961C6B0 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2021 13:19:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1]:60350 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mrfci-0005ey-S3 for larch@yhetil.org; Mon, 29 Nov 2021 07:19:08 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:48090) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mrfcJ-0005em-UL for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Nov 2021 07:18:44 -0500 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:52101) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mrfcI-0003Ny-5f for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Nov 2021 07:18:43 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 174AF24002C for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2021 13:18:39 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1638188320; bh=xCRB3aU46Ay5Vm7YqbJb8CkomlDHPdLiwknjSYdWV/k=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=WXkJFuo27Ezfj2l3SoSeOm+SxU47umbVfq29l5TgdiQy6Wvvb5ptQN5Tx+xWU9GVR Y8q4AejlZsXFbuXJ7hvO0d7TTDjKvrz0zPLv/79U3HJjCWgv/M6+fEey8RT7+qMDT7 01q+pQ6TAoFt5V76RbUxrVWAIGOXMpqPOnVAxw8gMGkXcwwBlyL79znbqLZHnAEAiP q2jq6oL2zpjCxkPm1jjnjpAYoFaeZ5/QNuaUY+OvyAQWtCRRUgUCOqNnBDoG+VO0W6 cmdGU2v/74Yl+cpMmVvsLdYhBrUi8KGsYCsaNyRMQ+L5W+cK+gbSfyHFtIXAL3bWjU HkB+/gwAKth6w== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4J2ksW32RWz9rxG; Mon, 29 Nov 2021 13:18:39 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Juan_Manuel_Mac=C3=ADas?= To: Marcin Borkowski Subject: Re: "Orgdown", the new name for the syntax of Org-mode References: <2021-11-28T20-44-37@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> <87a6hngbns.fsf@posteo.net> <87y257plg9.fsf@mbork.pl> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2021 12:18:37 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87y257plg9.fsf@mbork.pl> (Marcin Borkowski's message of "Mon, 29 Nov 2021 06:41:58 +0100") Message-ID: <87o8636tpe.fsf@posteo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=maciaschain@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." 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The amount of confusion between TeX (engine)/TeX > (language)/TeX (distro)/TeX-aware text editor/LaTeX (whatever) among > novice/casual users has always been terrible. It's natural when those novice/casual users approach something that is new to them, but nothing invincible when they want to learn. The "TeX" ecosystem is not trivial, but I think that all, or almost all of us, understand each other when things like 'TeX/LaTeX code', 'TeX engine', 'LaTeX format', etc. are said. If the TeX language were somewhat self-contained and widely used outside of TeX, I would see OK that the language had its own name. But, since the TeX language is something that almost only TeX understands (roughly said), I think the economy wins here (IMHO). I don't see how we could improve everything by having half a dozen more exotic names. Best regards, Juan Manuel