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From: Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com>
To: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: Bind `org-fold-hide-subtree' by default in Org Mode.
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2023 11:33:57 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o7ph7ipm.fsf@red-bean.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ttcr8c$koh$1@ciao.gmane.io> (Max Nikulin's message of "Sat, 25 Feb 2023 18:26:04 +0700")

On 25 Feb 2023, Max Nikulin wrote:
>On 25/02/2023 07:13, Karl Fogel wrote:
>> Okay, today I did some research and found that every "C-c
>> C-<letter>" binding is used in Org Mode except for "C-c 
>> C-g". While
>> that one is technically reserved for the mode's use
>
>No, there is an explicit exception for C-g, see (info "(elisp) 
>Key
>Binding Conventions") in "Tips and Conventions" appendix.
>https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Key-Binding-Conventions.html

Ah, thanks for pointing that out.

>Even C-c C-x prefix is quite busy. Other modifiers might be a 
>rescue:
>C-c M-something.
>
>However perhaps M-x with fuzzy completion allowing typos (and 
>ideally
>synonyms) might be a better solution.

Well, sure -- we get that for free.

I think we can consider this proposal over.  While I find 
`org-fold-hide-subtree' very useful, the Org Mode default keyspace 
is very busy already, and we don't hear anyone proposing to drop 
something else in favor of `org-fold-hide-subtree'.  Anyone can 
custom-bind it themselves, of course (which is what I'll continue 
doing).

>No, [Ctrl+Tab] and [Ctrl+Shift+Tab] is widely used in other
>applications to switch to next/previous tabs. I would strongly 
>prefer
>to keep it consistent across as much applications as 
>possible. (There
>are corner cases like e.g. vim with multiple tabs running in a
>terminal application having several tabs as well. E.g. gnome 
>terminal
>is able to pass [Ctrl+PgDn], a [Ctrl+Tab] alternative, while it 
>has
>single tab, but intercepts the same shortcut when more terminal 
>tabs
>are opened, so vim keys have to be used.)

Agreed.

Best regards,
-Karl


      reply	other threads:[~2023-02-25 17:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-22  7:29 PROPOSAL: Bind `org-fold-hide-subtree' by default in Org Mode Karl Fogel
2023-02-22 15:57 ` Max Nikulin
2023-02-22 17:01   ` Karl Fogel
2023-02-23  2:35     ` Max Nikulin
2023-02-23  4:48       ` Samuel Wales
2023-02-25  8:01         ` Key binding in help (was: Re: PROPOSAL: Bind `org-fold-hide-subtree' by default in Org Mode.) Max Nikulin
2023-02-25 23:32           ` Samuel Wales
2023-03-08 15:27             ` Max Nikulin
2023-02-23 19:02       ` PROPOSAL: Bind `org-fold-hide-subtree' by default in Org Mode Karl Fogel
2023-02-25  0:13         ` Karl Fogel
2023-02-25 11:26           ` Max Nikulin
2023-02-25 17:33             ` Karl Fogel [this message]

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