From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Eric S Fraga Subject: Re: Speed commands (was: Release 6.33) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:09:21 +0000 Message-ID: <87my2h6s3i.wl%ucecesf@ucl.ac.uk> References: <87aayqfh8a.wl%ucecesf@ucl.ac.uk> <8D1991FE-E04A-41DF-8919-C72E4EA9AFF1@uva.nl> <4AFDB0AB.9040607@cs.tu-berlin.de> <78C217F4-D3EA-46BA-A237-CA0E54216D5E@uva.nl> <20091120143546.GA1227@taupan.ath.cx> <95E34029-6EF2-4E77-B303-37676E5FA79F@gmail.com> Reply-To: e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NBWzm-0005kC-Kl for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:10:06 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NBWzh-0005Zj-7H for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:10:05 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33139 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NBWzg-0005ZH-T3 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:10:00 -0500 Received: from vscane-c.ucl.ac.uk ([144.82.108.43]:41640) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NBWzg-0001bX-Ci for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:10:00 -0500 In-Reply-To: <95E34029-6EF2-4E77-B303-37676E5FA79F@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Carsten Dominik Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org At Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:57:09 +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote: > On Nov 20, 2009, at 3:35 PM, Friedrich Delgado Friedrichs wrote: > > How about having an alternative keymap with vi-like moving keys? I > > hardly ever use the C-b, C-f, C-n, C-p in my regular emacs work > > (mostly cursor keys) and so I'm actually more comfortable with using > > vi movement. > > I don't understand what you are proposing here. vi uses the home row keys (hjkl) for movement (left, down, up, right) and it's something those of us weaned on vi (30 years ago in my case) have a natural affinity for. I think Friedrich is proposing having 'j' instead of 'f' or 'n', 'k' instead of 'b' or 'p' for speed keys for motion (but am not sure whether 'h' and 'l' should be mapped to anything in particular). In fact, using viper mode with org-mode gives you this and works quite well overall but viper mode carries some unnecessary baggage. However, I would suggest that he can simply re-bind his speed keys. It's not really a suggestion for new functionality, I guess, unlike the other examples he gave (some of which were very appealing).