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* Emacs and tablet devices
@ 2011-07-28 11:59 Piter_
  2011-07-28 12:44 ` Jason F. McBrayer
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From: Piter_ @ 2011-07-28 11:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Hi all.
It may be not the best place to ask, but:
How useful is emacs on tablet devices. I have been thinking about
emacs and freerunner. But I have no clue how the keybindings work
with it.
So my second guess is nanonote which has a keyboard (but i would
prefer freerunner as it has less moving parts).
Any experiense or tips.
Thanks.
Petro.

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* Re: Emacs and tablet devices
  2011-07-28 11:59 Emacs and tablet devices Piter_
@ 2011-07-28 12:44 ` Jason F. McBrayer
  2011-07-28 23:01   ` T Helms
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Jason F. McBrayer @ 2011-07-28 12:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Piter_; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 13:59:18 +0200, Piter_ wrote:

> It may be not the best place to ask, but:
> How useful is emacs on tablet devices. I have been thinking about
> emacs and freerunner. But I have no clue how the keybindings work
> with it.
> So my second guess is nanonote which has a keyboard (but i would
> prefer freerunner as it has less moving parts).
> Any experiense or tips.

I don't have any experience with either of those devices, but I do
have a little emacs-on-tablet experience.

I have run Emacs in an SSH session from Android, using the ConnectBot
ssh client, and the Hacker's Keyboard input method. I'd say the user
experience is adequate but not ideal -- it depends on sticky modifier
keys rather than the usual chording. I believe that if you ran (e.g.)
a Debian chroot alongside Android, you could run a local emacs in a
local terminal or under Xvnc.

In my opinion, this will work, but it doesn't really leverage any
tablet-specific features.

Another possible device you might consider is the N850/900/950
series. I'm fairly certain there is a native emacs build for those
that requires no special jiggery-pokery.

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| Jason F. McBrayer jmcbray@carcosa.net |
| If someone conquers a thousand times a thousand others in |
| battle, and someone else conquers himself, the latter one |
| is the greatest of all conquerors. --- The Dhammapada |

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* Re: Emacs and tablet devices
  2011-07-28 12:44 ` Jason F. McBrayer
@ 2011-07-28 23:01   ` T Helms
  2011-08-25 10:17     ` Eric S Fraga
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: T Helms @ 2011-07-28 23:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

On 07/28/2011 08:44 AM, Jason F. McBrayer wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 13:59:18 +0200, Piter_ wrote:
>
>> It may be not the best place to ask, but:
>> How useful is emacs on tablet devices. I have been thinking about
>> emacs and freerunner. But I have no clue how the keybindings work
>> with it.
> Another possible device you might consider is the N850/900/950
> series. I'm fairly certain there is a native emacs build for those
> that requires no special jiggery-pokery.
>

I have an n900.  Emacs and org work wonderfully for a small device.  I'm 
using 23.2 compiled by Sander Boer on this list.

The keyboard is easily remapped.  The only downsides are the screen size 
& speed.  A task that takes 4 sec. to run on my laptop takes over 30 on 
the phone (iterating large tables and the like).

Capture & clocking make it very useful in the handheld, so useful that I 
just picked a 2nd device to have when my current one dies.

I can't speak to tablets or the freerunner but I would think the lack of 
a real keyboard would be difficult to overcome.

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* Re: Emacs and tablet devices
  2011-07-28 23:01   ` T Helms
@ 2011-08-25 10:17     ` Eric S Fraga
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Eric S Fraga @ 2011-08-25 10:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: maxco.tr; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

T Helms <maxco.tr@gmail.com> writes:

> On 07/28/2011 08:44 AM, Jason F. McBrayer wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 13:59:18 +0200, Piter_ wrote:
>>
>
>>> It may be not the best place to ask, but:
>>> How useful is emacs on tablet devices. I have been thinking about
>>> emacs and freerunner. But I have no clue how the keybindings work
>>> with it.
>> Another possible device you might consider is the N850/900/950
>> series. I'm fairly certain there is a native emacs build for those
>> that requires no special jiggery-pokery.
>>
>
> I have an n900.  Emacs and org work wonderfully for a small device.
> I'm using 23.2 compiled by Sander Boer on this list.
>
> The keyboard is easily remapped.  The only downsides are the screen
> size & speed.  A task that takes 4 sec. to run on my laptop takes over
> 30 on the phone (iterating large tables and the like).
>
> Capture & clocking make it very useful in the handheld, so useful that
> I just picked a 2nd device to have when my current one dies.
>
> I can't speak to tablets or the freerunner but I would think the lack
> of a real keyboard would be difficult to overcome.

+1

I've used Emacs + org mode on the Nokia n800 and n810 internet tablets.

The n800 has no keyboard and I found it incredibly frustrating to use,
either because a reasonably sized virtual keyboard took too much of the
screen, leaving too little for Emacs, or the keyboard was too small to
type confidently.  The n810, on the other hand, is a joy to use.  The
keyboard is just about right and is good for Emacs with a few key
mappings (xmodmap).  

Also, the speed keys for outline heading movements and cycling that org
provides are quite useful on small systems.

So I would recommend a system with a real keyboard.  I would be very
curious to hear from anybody that has real experience of using Emacs (+
org mode) on the Ben Nanonote as it's quite an attractive little system.

-- 
: Eric S Fraga (GnuPG: 0xC89193D8FFFCF67D) in Emacs 24.0.50.1
: using Org-mode version 7.7 (release_7.7.175.g8478)

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