From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Rasmus Subject: Re: Should org-narrow-to-subtree be disabled by default? Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2014 16:50:40 +0100 Message-ID: <87mwjdxdwv.fsf@gmx.us> References: <878uwfgmxz.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87mwkv8689.fsf@gmx.us> <8761q1cbxc.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35354) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vz6xp-0006M2-Ob for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 10:47:15 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vz6xk-0001f3-F7 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 10:47:09 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:60368) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vz6xk-0001ep-5i for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 10:47:04 -0500 Received: from W530 ([109.201.154.141]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MPD8G-1W3Uft2oxE-004Si6 for ; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 16:47:02 +0100 In-Reply-To: <8761q1cbxc.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> (Bastien's message of "Fri, 03 Jan 2014 16:39:11 +0100") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: bzg@gnu.org Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Bastien writes: > Rasmus writes: > >> Bastien writes: >> >>> one good way to decide could be to ask people here if they ever >>> accidentally narrowed the view to a subtree -- I never did. >> >> No. But I know the concept of narrowing, which may be unfamiliar to >> some. I find narrowing super useful, especially when writing longer >> documents. > > I checked narrow-to-defun, and it is not disabled by default, only > narrow-to-region and narrow-to-page, which are both accessible in any > mode. > > As org-narrow-to-* functions are only accessible from org-mode buffers > and not that easily called by accident (I haven't seen any report like > this in years), I suggest we stick to the current setup. Fine with me. >>> Also, I tend to think Emacs is on the paranoid side here, I don't >>> think newbies can hit C-x n n accidentally... >> >> Perhaps an easier way to narrow by accident is through >> org-speed-commands-default, i.e. speedkey "s". > > Yes, but newbies don't use speed commands without knowing what they > do, do they? Probably not since org-use-speed-commands is nil by default. -- A page of history is worth a volume of logic