From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Achim Gratz Subject: Re: [RFC] Proposal for rebindings in Org 8.3 Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 11:26:49 +0100 Message-ID: <87mwi0vaxi.fsf@Rainer.invalid> References: <87eh3f9pss.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87eh3eex15.fsf@alphaville.bos.redhat.com> <87bnyhscai.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87y51lqlmt.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87ha88r9yr.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46386) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WCRbR-0000Ff-Fz for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 05:27:15 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WCRbL-0000D2-9g for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 05:27:09 -0500 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:46047) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WCRbL-0000Cw-3K for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 05:27:03 -0500 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WCRbJ-0007WA-4E for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 11:27:01 +0100 Received: from pd9eb1dc2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([217.235.29.194]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 11:27:01 +0100 Received: from Stromeko by pd9eb1dc2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 11:27:01 +0100 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Bastien writes: > What I don't understand is why keeping the right control key between > C-c and C-' is harder than releasing the control key between C-c and > ' (or " as also proposed.) My experience (which seems the same than > Nick's) is that holding the control key down is easier/faster. That depends on the keyboard layout, but if pressing "'" requires the use of the right hand, then you'd need to switch to the laft for pressing Control (unless you were chording it with the right hand, which is probably a bad thing for anyone inflicted with RSI). > (I wonder if any serious ergonomical study has been done for Emacs > beybindings depending on keyboards.) Quite certainly not. There are oodles of keybindings that really don't work sensibly with anything but a UNIX keyboard and the whole concept is clearly inspired by the Lisp Machine "Space Cadet" keyboard. I wish I'd still have my Sun Type4 keyboard… Similarly, you really don't get why anybody thought "\" was a good path separator until you take a look at the original PC/XT keyboard (it was also a non-modifier key on most terminal keyboards at the time, but "/" was more prominent there). Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Factory and User Sound Singles for Waldorf rackAttack: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSounds