From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Titus von der Malsburg Subject: Re: org-ref & helm-bibtex notes Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 18:28:39 -0700 Message-ID: <87mvzzm8c8.fsf@posteo.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57563) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z529n-0006cN-8e for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 21:28:48 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z529k-0003dk-0P for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 21:28:47 -0400 Received: from mx02.posteo.de ([89.146.194.165]:54500) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z529j-0003dW-RL for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 21:28:43 -0400 In-reply-to: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Julian Burgos Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2015-06-16 Tue 17:39, Julian Burgos wrote: > Dear list, > > I have been using org-ref for a while, using reftex to insert citations in > my org documents. Now I am switching to helm-bibtex, which is pretty > awesome. I have a couple of question about the note files. Org-ref uses > a single file to keep notes (e.g. notes.org), but helm-bibtex assumes that > notes are kept in separate files, one per article. My questions are: > > a) Do you have a preference in the single file vs multiple files question? > Are advantages/disadvantages? I tend to prefer the single file option, > it makes search easy and also I can add TODO items that later I can pull > out in the agenda view. With multiple files this would not be as easy.=20 > Do you agree? Hi, I=E2=80=99m the author of helm-bibtex. There was recently a discussion= about this on Github: https://github.com/tmalsburg/helm-bibtex/issues/40 Someone convinced me that storing all notes in one file is better and there is an experimental (and incomplete) implementation in a topic branch: https://github.com/tmalsburg/helm-bibtex/tree/note-files (Multiple note files will still be possible for users who prefer that.) > b) Helm-bibtex identifies which references have a note file, adding a > symbol on the reference list. Can we make helm-bibtex look into a single > file (say the "notes.org" file), look for the :Custom_ID: properties of > the entries, and use that to mark the reference list? I am teaching > myself emacs-lisp but this is above my capacity right now. Yes, something like that needs to be included. The unresolved question is how BibTeX keys should be stored in the notes file. I find property drawers incredibly clunky and in my experience they can considerably slow down Emacs in large org files (that=E2=80=99s the reason why I don=E2= =80=99t use org-contacts as much as a would like). My current favorite format for entries in the notes file is the following: * Author: Title (year) :BibTeXkey: Here are the notes =E2=80=A6 The only problem I see with this is that BibTeX allows keys to contain colons, and a key with a colon would break org=E2=80=99s tag syntax. Suggestions welcome. Titus > > Many thanks, > > Julian --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVgM1HAAoJEK40WfPGE2idxCYIAKR89ga7TDTheT4ZDTF361cB fpnOGKz96soYSxF88XC/HUgHJXXzzVZhOLZ2z336q4+c40oWK0njyWdlLpSupgnj Rnls0jDo/+t7Mu0h1aNoRRF8mTzWwXI/JQm/iywn3DGDgGBX/Jbni3VNTb7DSVwI mOlCLKYD+Qv5Jt6dOuR1XQHz6qtPqGnMkD2A8sTdlMXzU7kCtRFI4bjqYkCpN5Dj XJ1Pw5uQ+rNo63K2GoV7JzzmDfnAUEo2Ge/zR81BZynGZCy/XgT6wZ8WlPBmyD51 utp9FRpObBzrqin5isOkuHpMzQEY0yJ55g13wmfysfBLy4dPSqDLtTWJWZx6Iss= =W1WA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--