From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id arRZIjkKV2BzCgAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 21 Mar 2021 08:56:25 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id kKSAHTkKV2DJaAAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 21 Mar 2021 08:56:25 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CF623244C5 for ; Sun, 21 Mar 2021 09:56:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1]:53232 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lNtsl-00017z-E2 for larch@yhetil.org; Sun, 21 Mar 2021 04:56:23 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41924) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lNtrV-00016c-Qo for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Mar 2021 04:55:07 -0400 Received: from tempel.uberspace.de ([185.26.156.63]:44936) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lNtrQ-0002IE-0k for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Mar 2021 04:55:05 -0400 Received: (qmail 25291 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2021 08:54:50 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by tempel.uberspace.de with SMTP; 21 Mar 2021 08:54:50 -0000 References: <87a6s9i7sd.fsf@chark.eu> <877dn9x84w.fsf@alphaville.usersys.redhat.com> User-agent: mu4e 1.5.5; emacs 28.0.50 From: Christine =?utf-8?Q?K=C3=B6hn?= To: Nick Dokos Subject: Re: Where has the manual on one html page gone? In-reply-to: <877dn9x84w.fsf@alphaville.usersys.redhat.com> Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2021 09:54:48 +0100 Message-ID: <87mtuwopif.fsf@chark.eu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.26.156.63; envelope-from=christine@chark.eu; helo=tempel.uberspace.de X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1616316985; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=Fp6qf3NszJLKEeBfZy7uJYlb6LV7IExvnk8FgaJAPbA=; b=MlHVfeVCYB8EFydqbq4/Pvd2tuPNe5HQJK7bN9KB17WDJTlHuWY1taZPhh1ITY0xX32gPw Ht9u+84oKATtgMyKQNa6+3cMSUA8fOwiD0oBwZJ6FG71WDSAp9gSY4XkqBnakKHMj/+qPF Chnmy4P7Vqe2BdfUhYOPgFRwIVCrAiioGUo4WNBFJo/At6gHgbYAnZKMDjwRNhB42Zo2RH Y+f20J+am+iZTiWPiBp627si6WuR6aDwgKK6kIn/DYoZIsVjtS5said8pAxr9+XLvg9+cn Bk0Sw779SOFonGC93lbfgICe+7t+qKizPWJkpY3cFs79ujOq5darK2JZdjv6RQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1616316985; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=NDCwDpD97It5DtOoIhJejcofoVvkHn9LmhNZeDvQRFKdCFT8bbCXVmUBqWv8DVGBDLZ7f5 7K+rkMKfqRxryXqqvC0hr2Kx7TD6VYapjshcgqCRY9RjiQPwDLsPSg3+AZrYz+RI76v1mp LZK4y7bp+RMRMx13pW7RSqBR6XoJaJ9bILEX5LX35kvj7nNQHWTRNtE0V59gMz/OMY3WwZ ipLvpU3AxPJ2GL/jbjUjhRtPtPbVtuf+j5bLEKwd8kQXEblpBUuJ9UaAztmyoN1eIxkupW 9rqvBcTtGec539lff0dxm3fHW6G8he6tzIV5h8bzL2BQxrIsK/9Z17zTp05T7w== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.42 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: CF623244C5 X-Spam-Score: -1.42 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: DnRF1ktBQTI7 Here's why I prefer the one page manual: I can search it easily. Sometimes I do not find what I'm looking for where I would expect it to be. Also, searching is convenient way to find out if something *is not* in the manual. I'm used to reading and searching in a browser. For me, it's easier to read a whole chapter/section if I just have to scroll down. Especially if I only do cursory reading, e.g if I read about spreadsheets after not having used them in a while. If I can just scroll down, it's also easier to read on my smartphone (I'd like not to do that but in the pandemic some things cannot be chosen). I agree that it's not efficient to download a whole manual but I guess that's what caching is for? Anyway, I thought about switching to accessing the manual offline but I haven't gotten to it yet.