* [BUG] Mention #+PRINT_BIBLIOGRAPHY in the Org manual
@ 2022-06-13 10:59 Rudolf Adamkovič
2022-06-14 6:47 ` Marvin Gülker
2022-10-20 4:40 ` Ihor Radchenko
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From: Rudolf Adamkovič @ 2022-06-13 10:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hello there!
I wonder why the Org manual at
https://orgmode.org/manual/Citation-handling.html
does not mention the #+PRINT_BIBLIOGRAPHY keyword.
It all makes no sense without printing the bibliography, right?
(Not sure, hence the question mark.)
Rudy
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* Re: [BUG] Mention #+PRINT_BIBLIOGRAPHY in the Org manual
2022-06-13 10:59 [BUG] Mention #+PRINT_BIBLIOGRAPHY in the Org manual Rudolf Adamkovič
@ 2022-06-14 6:47 ` Marvin Gülker
2022-10-20 4:40 ` Ihor Radchenko
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From: Marvin Gülker @ 2022-06-14 6:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Am Montag, dem 13. Juni 2022 schrieb Rudolf Adamkovič:
> It all makes no sense without printing the bibliography, right?
In a footnote citation style, it can make sense, and it is common in
German judicial articles. We do not need separate bibliographies there,
because we instead do cross-referencing in footnotes. The first footnote
contains the full bibliographic information, the subsequent ones
abbreviate it and reference the first footnote.
But I do agree that the manual should of course mention it.
-quintus
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* Re: [BUG] Mention #+PRINT_BIBLIOGRAPHY in the Org manual
2022-06-13 10:59 [BUG] Mention #+PRINT_BIBLIOGRAPHY in the Org manual Rudolf Adamkovič
2022-06-14 6:47 ` Marvin Gülker
@ 2022-10-20 4:40 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-20 14:42 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
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From: Ihor Radchenko @ 2022-10-20 4:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rudolf Adamkovič; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Rudolf Adamkovič <salutis@me.com> writes:
> I wonder why the Org manual at
>
> https://orgmode.org/manual/Citation-handling.html
>
> does not mention the #+PRINT_BIBLIOGRAPHY keyword.
For record, the manual now contains a dedicated section for printing the
bibliography and additional options that can passed to it.
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git/tree/doc/org-manual.org#n17095
--
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,
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* Re: [BUG] Mention #+PRINT_BIBLIOGRAPHY in the Org manual
2022-10-20 4:40 ` Ihor Radchenko
@ 2022-10-20 14:42 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2022-10-21 3:22 ` Ihor Radchenko
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From: Rudolf Adamkovič @ 2022-10-20 14:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ihor Radchenko; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> writes:
> For record, the manual now contains a dedicated section for printing
> the bibliography and additional options that can passed to it.
> https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git/tree/doc/org-manual.org#n17095
Oh, fantastic! Thank you for letting me know.
BTW, speaking of citations, I wonder why Org inserts
[cite/text:@author-year] and not [cite/text: @author-year], with a space
character, to avoid strangely filled paragraphs (as seen here).
Rudy
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nearest to our most practical applications."
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Rudolf Adamkovič <salutis@me.com> [he/him]
Studenohorská 25
84103 Bratislava
Slovakia
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* Re: [BUG] Mention #+PRINT_BIBLIOGRAPHY in the Org manual
2022-10-20 14:42 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
@ 2022-10-21 3:22 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-21 14:56 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
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From: Ihor Radchenko @ 2022-10-21 3:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rudolf Adamkovič; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Rudolf Adamkovič <salutis@me.com> writes:
> BTW, speaking of citations, I wonder why Org inserts
> [cite/text:@author-year] and not [cite/text: @author-year], with a space
> character, to avoid strangely filled paragraphs (as seen here).
Feel free to submit a patch for org-cite-make-insert-processor.
--
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,
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* Re: [BUG] Mention #+PRINT_BIBLIOGRAPHY in the Org manual
2022-10-21 3:22 ` Ihor Radchenko
@ 2022-10-21 14:56 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2022-10-22 6:11 ` Ihor Radchenko
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From: Rudolf Adamkovič @ 2022-10-21 14:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ihor Radchenko; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> writes:
> Feel free to submit a patch for org-cite-make-insert-processor.
Could the patch make '[cite: @key]' the new default when inserting
citations, or should it introduce a new customization point?
Rudy
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of all unnecessary thought and on its wonderful saving of mental
operations."
-- Ernst Mach, 1838-1916
Rudolf Adamkovič <salutis@me.com> [he/him]
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* Re: [BUG] Mention #+PRINT_BIBLIOGRAPHY in the Org manual
2022-10-21 14:56 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
@ 2022-10-22 6:11 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-22 13:18 ` Bruce D'Arcus
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From: Ihor Radchenko @ 2022-10-22 6:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rudolf Adamkovič; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Rudolf Adamkovič <salutis@me.com> writes:
> Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> writes:
>
>> Feel free to submit a patch for org-cite-make-insert-processor.
>
> Could the patch make '[cite: @key]' the new default when inserting
> citations, or should it introduce a new customization point?
I think it can be the new default.
However, please send the patch in a separate thread, so that people can
see it and oppose if they have objections.
--
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,
or support my work at <https://liberapay.com/yantar92>
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* Re: [BUG] Mention #+PRINT_BIBLIOGRAPHY in the Org manual
2022-10-22 6:11 ` Ihor Radchenko
@ 2022-10-22 13:18 ` Bruce D'Arcus
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From: Bruce D'Arcus @ 2022-10-22 13:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ihor Radchenko; +Cc: Rudolf Adamkovič, emacs-orgmode
I'm not sure what I think about this. I can't ever recall having a
practical issue with this example (I'd expect it's more common for
people with very long cite keys?), though in the past I have had
issues with whitespace when moving around citation-references
programmatically (as, for example, with
~citar-org-shift-reference-left~ and such).
On Sat, Oct 22, 2022 at 2:14 AM Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> wrote:
>
> Rudolf Adamkovič <salutis@me.com> writes:
>
> > Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> writes:
> >
> >> Feel free to submit a patch for org-cite-make-insert-processor.
> >
> > Could the patch make '[cite: @key]' the new default when inserting
> > citations, or should it introduce a new customization point?
>
> I think it can be the new default.
> However, please send the patch in a separate thread, so that people can
> see it and oppose if they have objections.
>
> --
> Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
> Org mode contributor,
> Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
> Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,
> or support my work at <https://liberapay.com/yantar92>
>
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