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That folder showed up even with that setting.. Instead now it seems to fix the issue hmm.. I wouldn't want it to be a Pyrrhic victory! I may indeed reappear somewhere. As I stated in my last message and the commits, we now have the following: 1. For emacs -Q, the folder, if created, is removed upon closing Emacs It may still stay if you do something like kill -9 (I can't do much about this scenario). Note that this situation is rather unlikely scenario. You need to do something manually with emacs -Q. 2. For normal emacs usage, the folder is created only when it is needed If you set org-element-cache-persistent to nil, Org may still use org-persist for other purposes, like LaTeX previews or caching remote images during export. 3. As I suggested in my other message, if you don't like (2), set `org-persist-directory' to the location that does not bother you. Alternatively, you can use https://github.com/emacscollective/no-littering that will organize .emacs.d closer to XDG schema. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at