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From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: Daniel Clemente <n142857@gmail.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: org-encrypt-entries is slow (was: org-crypt leaking data when encryption password is not entered twice (was: Please document the caching and its user options))
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2024 14:14:07 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87msmc40cw.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJKAhPDfUEHihaUk_fkdzgMAtm=NUQSa9feRAx56W+RxwJhKRQ@mail.gmail.com>

Daniel Clemente <n142857@gmail.com> writes:

> But org-crypt still feels strange. For instance, I decrypt a header,
> add a space somewhere else and save. It's saved, but the header is
> still visibly unencrypted in Emacs; that's unexpected, because
> org-crypt-use-before-save-magic promised to „automatically encrypt
> entries before a file is saved to disk“.
> I checked the file from outside Emacs and I see that the header is
> actually encrypted, so technically it did what it promised to do
> though I don't see it in Emacs.
> So there's a discordance between what I see and what is saved. Maybe
> it's feature, not a bug: „you still see the decrypted contents but you
> can trust that when they're saved they'll be saved encrypted“. This
> may be clarified in the docstring. If it's a feature, I think it may
> be useful; I just don't like having to trust that the silent
> background-auto-encryption is working (I'll often want to verify the
> file from outside Emacs). But users may have different preferences.
> This may be material for another thread.

Yup, I consider this as a feature. Especially for people using
auto-save-visited-mode and similar. If saving is triggered on timer,
while editing encrypted heading, encrypting everything in the middle of
typing is not fun.

> Minor thing, not important now: the cursor jumps to the end of the
> header after a C-x C-s when in the middle of a currently-decrypted
> block without changes.

Should be better now on the latest version of the branch.

> Another minor thing: I use a key that calls
> (org-save-all-org-buffers), and if I press it e.g. from the *scratch*
> buffer it may ask me the „Passphrase for symmetric encryption“
> question (because I edited some crypted section) but I don't know
> which buffer it's asking about. But it's not a problem because if I
> press C-g then I'll see it.

Should also be better now.

> I see a new problem: with (org-crypt-use-before-save-magic) enabled, I
> edit a decrypted section, press C-x C-s to save and it asks me for the
> encryption password. Here, if I press C-g, org-crypt would catch it
> and then tell me that it won't be able to encrypt due to the C-g.
> However I'm not pressing C-g, what I'm doing is opening another TTY
> frame (I'm running TTY emacsclient, with no X support, but under
> urxvt); this makes the minibuffer disappear, and I see „Back to top
> level“, and the whole contents of the section being encrypted are
> lost.

I tried to reproduce with the latest version of the branch. Seems to
work fine. May you test?

-- 
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
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  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-20 14:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-12  9:38 Please document the caching and its user options Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-14 13:12 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-14 13:41   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-14 15:31     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-14 15:56       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-15 12:47         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-15 13:01           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-15 14:13             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-15 14:37               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-16  9:05                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-16 10:41                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-23  9:12                     ` Björn Bidar
2024-06-15 13:47           ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-14 13:56   ` Jens Lechtenboerger
2024-06-14 14:31     ` Publishing cache (was: Please document the caching and its user options) Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-12  7:55       ` Proposal: Change publication timestamps (was: Publishing cache) Jens Lechtenboerger
2024-08-15 18:29         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-25 17:00           ` Proposal: Change publication timestamps Jens Lechtenboerger
2024-09-15 12:02             ` Jens Lechtenboerger
2024-09-17 18:33               ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-16  5:40   ` Please document the caching and its user options Daniel Clemente
2024-06-16 12:36     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-17 12:41       ` Daniel Clemente
2024-06-18 15:53         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-18 16:15           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-18 16:25             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-18 16:33               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-18 16:55                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-19  9:27                   ` Colin Baxter
2024-06-19 10:35                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-19 13:04                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-19 13:30                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-19 16:07                           ` Colin Baxter
2024-06-19 16:15                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-18 22:06               ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2024-06-19  4:29                 ` tomas
2024-06-23 11:45           ` Daniel Clemente
2024-06-24 10:36             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-26 12:59               ` Daniel Clemente
2024-06-26 13:21                 ` org-crypt leaking data when encryption password is not entered twice (was: Please document the caching and its user options) Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-27  8:55                   ` Daniel Clemente
2024-06-27 10:15                     ` org-encrypt-entries is slow (was: org-crypt leaking data when encryption password is not entered twice (was: Please document the caching and its user options)) Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-02 16:54                       ` Daniel Clemente
2024-07-02 19:16                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-04 10:36                           ` Daniel Clemente
2024-07-06 13:02                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-10 13:09                               ` Daniel Clemente
2024-07-11 10:40                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-15 17:00                                   ` Daniel Clemente
2024-07-20 14:14                                     ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2024-07-24 13:47                                       ` Daniel Clemente
2024-07-25  7:31                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-25 14:08                                           ` Daniel Clemente
2024-07-25 14:15                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-10-05 18:56                           ` Daniel Clemente
2024-10-20 12:57                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-27 10:34                     ` org-crypt leaking data when encryption password is not entered twice (was: Please document the caching and its user options) Ihor Radchenko
2024-07-02 16:53                       ` Daniel Clemente
2024-06-27  9:27                 ` Please document the caching and its user options Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-27 10:11                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-27 10:30                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-28 12:54                     ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2024-06-28 15:31                       ` Ihor Radchenko

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