From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Daniel M German Subject: Re: n810.... Re: Re: Any iPhone devellopers here Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 10:18:40 -0700 Message-ID: <87ljwrw0wf.fsf@uvic.ca> References: <83D9C37A-9163-40EB-BC77-47AE1903746E@uva.nl> <87d4ibd9g2.fsf_-_@uvic.ca> <38892A52-EDD3-4CF6-8672-1D5A774C3952@uva.nl> Reply-To: dmg@uvic.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KpnXz-0007lm-48 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:19:03 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KpnXy-0007lU-GD for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:19:02 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=38042 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KpnXy-0007lP-Ca for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:19:02 -0400 Received: from oxygen.cs.uvic.ca ([142.104.68.221]:36484 helo=mn.cs.uvic.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KpnXx-00011a-ON for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:19:02 -0400 In-Reply-To: <38892A52-EDD3-4CF6-8672-1D5A774C3952@uva.nl> (Carsten Dominik's message of "Fri, 10 Oct 2008 23:13:04 +0200") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Carsten> Hi Daniel, Carsten> I think your message is not off-topic at all, and reminds me that, of Carsten> course, Carsten> any attempt to get limited mobile support is always destined to look Carsten> pale Carsten> against a mobile version of Emacs.... :-( Carsten> - Carsten Here is my current setup and experiences using a Nokia N810. It might be interesting to those who are thinking about a mobile version of org. this might also be useful to those who use org in 2 different computers. For an idea of what org looks like in the n810 see: http://turingmachine.org/~dmg/temp/n810-org.png The N810 has an integrated keyboard. It makes a big difference with respect to the N800. There is no version of emacs with X and hildon support, so this makes it difficult to use emacs with a stylus (it runs, it is just unusable in my experience). I run emacs with no x support. with no-x support the stylus is dead, but on the other hand, the N810 has a keyboard, so you don't miss the stylus except for rapid movement of the mouse and access to the menus. It _could_ be better, but it is no show stopper. The first problem installing emacs in an N810 is its size. You need to reformat the internal card to ext2 or ext3. Otherwise you would be eating 1/2 of the internal memory with it. I run a reduced emacs configuration for the N810. I use a special .emacs for it. I have almost the same org configuration in the n810 as in my laptop. But I used them in slightly different ways. I have an org file that is mainly to be edited in the n810. I call it todo810.org By dedicating a file mainly to the n810 i simplify editing and synchronization across computers. Let me explain. I use svn to synchronize org files across laptop and 810. In general it works well, but there is always a chance for a conflict. It usually works well, except when tasks are added in two different computers svn detects a conflict (they are included exactly in the same area, and svn does not know which one should go first). To avoid this problem I have defined one special templates to be used in the n810. It adds tasks to the todo810.org file instead of my default org file. I find that it is more important to add tasks in the N810 than to organize them. So my priority is to add them, even if they are badly organized. I am more effective organizing them in my laptop. Several times a week, I connect my n810 to my home network, I login to it (via ssh) and I synchronize with my svn repository. If any conflict arises I can run emacs in an xterm (from my laptop) where I can easily and rapidly solve any conflict. On my N810 I can easily run remember, or the agenda view of org. They are very easy to use with its keyboard, which has a ctrl-key, but lacks alt, so I have to use ESC, which is bound to the "back arrow" in the front of the device. The Tab key does not exist in the keyboard, but it is available in the display in the osso-terminal status line. I am not a person that requires TODOS to be up-to-date to the minute. Perhaps what I like the most about my n810 is how simple it is to get info into my laptop. I can easily use remember to write a note, and I don't have to use a weird app/format than then I have to copy or retype into my usual notes. Among the main disadvantage of my setup is that my svn repository lives in my laptop. This means I can't easily synchronize it on the go. I need both devices connected to the network, and then play with the hosts file in the n810 to be able to force the IP of the repository. Another option i use is to create an ad-hoc network. Not ideal, but doable. I guess I could move it to a permanently connected computer, but I like my laptop to be independent of the network for most of my needs. I think that emacs + xournal + maemo mapper/Nokia map are the killer apps for this device. I frequently wonder if it might be possible to read mail using gnus using this device :) Finally, the font size is adjustable. -- -- Daniel M. German http://turingmachine.org/ http://silvernegative.com/ dmg (at) uvic (dot) ca replace (at) with @ and (dot) with .