From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Richard Lawrence Subject: Re: org-cite and org-citeproc Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 15:44:51 -0700 Message-ID: <87lhfgocv0.fsf@berkeley.edu> References: <87twx5hs2x.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87wq1u7clv.fsf@gmail.com> <87k2xue8gm.fsf@berkeley.edu> <87vbh9nl91.fsf@berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49278) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z5iYz-0000Z6-9c for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 18:45:38 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z5iYw-0008BK-37 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 18:45:37 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:37478) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z5iYv-0008B8-SS for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 18:45:34 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z5iYo-0004OB-Gs for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 00:45:27 +0200 Received: from airbears2-136-152-142-178.airbears2.berkeley.edu ([136.152.142.178]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 00:45:26 +0200 Received: from richard.lawrence by airbears2-136-152-142-178.airbears2.berkeley.edu with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 00:45:26 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hi Matt, Matt Price writes: > I'm wondering what kind of work is required to make use of org-cite and > org-citeproc at present. In particular, I'm wondering what kinds of changes > I'll need to make to my current setup, and whether it's worthwhile to use > my ultra-slow coding skills to create whatever glue is still necessary. At the moment, org-cite/org-citeproc has no way of talking to Zotero. So you'd need to manually export citation data from Zotero to a format that pandoc-citeproc understands, like BibTex. It sounds like zotxt and zotxt-emacs provide a lot of what's needed to glue org-cite together with Zotero; so one thing that would be helpful, if you're up for it, is hacking org-cite to pull bibliography data from Zotero in a format that can be passed to org-citeproc. I don't use Zotero myself, so this is something I'm unlikely to do anytime soon without some help. (Borrowing code from zotxt-emacs and putting it in org-cite is probably the way to go here, as I doubt that we want to make zotxt-emacs a dependency of org-cite.) > All of this is fine for my current purposes, but I would like to figure out > a more flexible and enduring solution, so I'd like to try out org-cite and > org-citeproc. But I'm not quite sure what's required, and whether there's > support currently for odt and html export. `Flexible and enduring' does not describe org-citeproc at the moment. :) I'd be very happy to have you test out org-citeproc and give feedback that will help improve it, but I can't recommend that you rely on it or switch to it for serious work any time soon. It is a working proof-of-concept, but only that. Still, there is support in org-cite/org-citeproc for both HTML and ODT export, and it handles quite a few of the common cases. So let me know if you're interested in trying it out. There are brief installation instructions in the README (https://github.com/wyleyr/org-citeproc); let me know if you need more than that. Best, Richard