From: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
To: Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com>
Cc: Allen Li <vianchielfaura@gmail.com>,
Org Mode List <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Could we get rid of Org specific "mark ring"
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 12:40:28 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lggew91v.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJcAo8uY=unNM5sfTMhGt1ijKc-RJzNtEbTeObGGw-OdQD4XaQ@mail.gmail.com> (Samuel Wales's message of "Tue, 30 Jan 2018 19:02:52 -0700")
Hello,
Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> writes:
> On 1/30/18, Allen Li <vianchielfaura@gmail.com> wrote:
>> It does change org behavior, since the native mark ring
>> distinguishes local from global, whereas org-mark-ring does not.
>> With the proposed change, there won't be a single
>> org-mark-ring-goto, you would have to make sure you call the
>> right command out of pop-to-mark-command or pop-global-mark.
>
> thanks. then i oppose this change.
>
> it seems crazy to have to think about whether where you will be going
> is in the same buffer or not. if that is what you mean.
It isn't crazy at all, and works surprising well in practice. Mark ring
is about finding some place you were before. Usually, at least for me,
the document where that place was is known. Once you are there, the
local ring can probably get you back to the desired location. Have you
tried regular Emacs mark ring?
In the current situation, you have to answer a more difficult question:
"Did I move to the desired location using Org tools or other Emacs
tools?". In the former case, I have to use Org specific ring (C-c &,
assuming it is accessible), otherwise, this is Emacs mark ring. So,
e.g., if I follow a link, this is C-c &, if I do an isearch, this is C-u
C-<SPC>. This is exactly what bug #23745 is about. A user is following
an Org internal link and is surprised, rightfully IMO, that C-u C-<SPC>
doesn't get it back to where it was before.
The crazier situation may not be the one you think.
Regards,
--
Nicolas Goaziou
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-01-31 11:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-01-29 23:21 [RFC] Could we get rid of Org specific "mark ring" Nicolas Goaziou
2018-01-30 5:06 ` Allen Li
2018-01-30 11:35 ` Kaushal Modi
2018-01-30 12:02 ` Rasmus
2018-01-30 12:36 ` Tim Cross
2018-01-30 20:47 ` Samuel Wales
2018-01-30 21:29 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-01-30 22:30 ` Samuel Wales
2018-01-30 22:33 ` Samuel Wales
2018-01-30 22:42 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-01-30 23:00 ` Samuel Wales
2018-01-30 23:06 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-01-30 23:15 ` Samuel Wales
2018-01-30 23:53 ` Allen Li
2018-01-31 2:02 ` Samuel Wales
2018-01-31 11:40 ` Nicolas Goaziou [this message]
2018-01-31 19:24 ` Samuel Wales
2018-01-31 19:29 ` Samuel Wales
2018-02-24 22:30 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-02-24 23:50 ` Samuel Wales
2018-02-25 8:08 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-02-25 20:28 ` Samuel Wales
2018-02-27 0:27 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-02-27 1:54 ` Samuel Wales
2018-02-27 7:09 ` Allen Li
2018-02-27 15:53 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-02-27 20:40 ` Samuel Wales
2018-02-27 20:48 ` Samuel Wales
2018-02-25 0:02 ` Samuel Wales
2018-04-26 23:34 ` Bastien
2018-04-27 0:32 ` Samuel Wales
2018-04-27 1:21 ` Bastien
2018-04-27 1:24 ` Samuel Wales
2018-04-27 1:56 ` Bastien
2018-05-03 22:04 ` Samuel Wales
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