* Capture Template Diary Entry: file+datetree+prompt use the prompted timestamp including the time when time is specified
@ 2020-05-18 10:59 Nils Schween
2020-05-20 4:02 ` Kyle Meyer
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Nils Schween @ 2020-05-18 10:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Dear members of the org-mode mailing list,
a week ago I spent some time to set up a capture template to
directly write appointments to my calendar file (i.e. to write
diary entries). It looks as follows:
("d" "Diary entry" entry (file+datetree+prompt "~/MPIK-Nextcloud/emacs/.org/kalender.org")
"* %i%?\n %T")
And it works as expected: When calling the capture template, I am prompted for a
date and I can also type a time, and on saving everything is stored at the
correct location in the datetree. Perfect. But in case I do not enter a time,
00:00 is inserted. This is unfortunate. Okay, I can replace "%T" in the template
with "%t", but then any specification of time is ignored.
Instead, I would love to mimic the behaviour of the function "org-time-stamp". Calling it
prompts for a date, and if I do not specify a time, only the date is inserted.
In case I specify a time or a range (i.e. 10:00-12:00) the timestamp is
supplemented with this additional information.
The use-case is the following: Some of my appointments last a whole day, and
others start at a specified time and some of them last e.g. only two hours. To
capture all these cases, I would need a template expansion inserting the
timestamp as I entered it when prompted, i.e. if a specify a time, it includes
it and if not it does not. Of course, this should also be true for e.g.
(10:00-12:00).
I tried a lot to get the desired behaviour by testing variants of the following
combination of org-mode functions and variables.
%(org-insert-time-stamp (org-read-date nil t org-read-date-final-answer) t)
I was not able to produce what I wanted.
Does anyone have a workaround or an idea how I could implement the described and
wished behaviour? Thanks.
With best regards,
Nils
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2020-05-18 10:59 Capture Template Diary Entry: file+datetree+prompt use the prompted timestamp including the time when time is specified Nils Schween
@ 2020-05-20 4:02 ` Kyle Meyer
2020-05-20 6:49 ` Aw: " Nils Schween
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Kyle Meyer @ 2020-05-20 4:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Nils Schween; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Nils Schween writes:
> ("d" "Diary entry" entry (file+datetree+prompt "~/MPIK-Nextcloud/emacs/.org/kalender.org")
> "* %i%?\n %T")
>
> And it works as expected: When calling the capture template, I am prompted for a
> date and I can also type a time, and on saving everything is stored at the
> correct location in the datetree. Perfect. But in case I do not enter a time,
> 00:00 is inserted. This is unfortunate. Okay, I can replace "%T" in the template
> with "%t", but then any specification of time is ignored.
>
> Instead, I would love to mimic the behaviour of the function "org-time-stamp". Calling it
> prompts for a date, and if I do not specify a time, only the date is inserted.
> In case I specify a time or a range (i.e. 10:00-12:00) the timestamp is
> supplemented with this additional information.
>
> I tried a lot to get the desired behaviour by testing variants of the following
> combination of org-mode functions and variables.
> %(org-insert-time-stamp (org-read-date nil t org-read-date-final-answer) t)
>
> I was not able to produce what I wanted.
>
> Does anyone have a workaround or an idea how I could implement the described and
> wished behaviour? Thanks.
I'm not aware of any built-in way to do what you want. For either
implementing or working around, org-capture-set-target-location and
org-capture-fill-template are the two places you'd probably want to
look. As a start of a hacky workaround, with an entry like
("d" "Diary entry" entry (file+datetree "/tmp/scratch.org")
"* %i%?\n %T" :time-prompt t)
you should be able to get the time/no time behavior you're after with
(advice-add 'org-capture-fill-template :around
(lambda (fn &optional template &rest args)
(let ((template (and (not org-time-was-given)
(replace-regexp-in-string
"%T" "%t"
(org-capture-get :template) t))))
(apply fn template args)))
'((name . "org-capture-hack")))
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 3+ messages in thread* Aw: Re: Capture Template Diary Entry: file+datetree+prompt use the prompted timestamp including the time when time is specified
2020-05-20 4:02 ` Kyle Meyer
@ 2020-05-20 6:49 ` Nils Schween
0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Nils Schween @ 2020-05-20 6:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kyle Meyer; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Hi Kyle,
thanks a lot for your workaround! I just tested it and it almost does what I am looking for.
The only thing that does not work is to give a range of time, i.e. 10:00-12:00. And looking at your code it is clear, that this cannot work because neither "%t" nor "%T" can do this.
I guess in the long run, it would make sense to adapt the template expansion "%t" to behave like the function "org-time-stamp".
Such an adaption would create more consistent behaviour for org users and does not break any former usage.
I checked the the part in org-capture.el and it looks like this
((or "t" "T" "u" "U")
;; These are the date/time related ones.
(let* ((upcase? (equal (upcase key) key))
(org-end-time-was-given nil)
(time (org-read-date upcase? t nil prompt)))
(org-insert-time-stamp
time (or org-time-was-given upcase?)
(member key '("u" "U"))
nil nil (list org-end-time-was-given))))
But unfortunately, I am not an elisp programmer and I cannot do the adaption myself.
I am sorry for that.
Once more, thanks.
Nils
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. Mai 2020 um 06:02 Uhr
Von: "Kyle Meyer" <kyle@kyleam.com>
An: "Nils Schween" <nils.schween@web.de>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Betreff: Re: Capture Template Diary Entry: file+datetree+prompt use the prompted timestamp including the time when time is specified
Nils Schween writes:
> ("d" "Diary entry" entry (file+datetree+prompt "~/MPIK-Nextcloud/emacs/.org/kalender.org")
> "* %i%?\n %T")
>
> And it works as expected: When calling the capture template, I am prompted for a
> date and I can also type a time, and on saving everything is stored at the
> correct location in the datetree. Perfect. But in case I do not enter a time,
> 00:00 is inserted. This is unfortunate. Okay, I can replace "%T" in the template
> with "%t", but then any specification of time is ignored.
>
> Instead, I would love to mimic the behaviour of the function "org-time-stamp". Calling it
> prompts for a date, and if I do not specify a time, only the date is inserted.
> In case I specify a time or a range (i.e. 10:00-12:00) the timestamp is
> supplemented with this additional information.
>
> I tried a lot to get the desired behaviour by testing variants of the following
> combination of org-mode functions and variables.
> %(org-insert-time-stamp (org-read-date nil t org-read-date-final-answer) t)
>
> I was not able to produce what I wanted.
>
> Does anyone have a workaround or an idea how I could implement the described and
> wished behaviour? Thanks.
I'm not aware of any built-in way to do what you want. For either
implementing or working around, org-capture-set-target-location and
org-capture-fill-template are the two places you'd probably want to
look. As a start of a hacky workaround, with an entry like
("d" "Diary entry" entry (file+datetree "/tmp/scratch.org")
"* %i%?\n %T" :time-prompt t)
you should be able to get the time/no time behavior you're after with
(advice-add 'org-capture-fill-template :around
(lambda (fn &optional template &rest args)
(let ((template (and (not org-time-was-given)
(replace-regexp-in-string
"%T" "%t"
(org-capture-get :template) t))))
(apply fn template args)))
'((name . "org-capture-hack")))
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