From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id S/PBDP78nl95HgAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 01 Nov 2020 18:22:54 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id KF1tCP78nl9dEwAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 01 Nov 2020 18:22:54 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E6689403A6 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 2020 18:22:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:51970 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kZI0C-0005VU-2n for larch@yhetil.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2020 13:22:52 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59506) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kZHzZ-0005To-1H for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2020 13:22:14 -0500 Received: from pb-smtp20.pobox.com ([173.228.157.52]:65213) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kZHzV-0002Bd-PH for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Nov 2020 13:22:11 -0500 Received: from pb-smtp20.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp20.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2234EF6D3F; Sun, 1 Nov 2020 13:22:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kyle@kyleam.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=sasl; bh=sLQpWYGq/rjJGpSTnTxsmxNs1 +E=; b=Psrr05HmC05c+ngQ/k8p4F4XPdwfGtpQTAvcG2pe9NZ0vNdVQ3ZLMXbvJ 5Ikqeetkeagwgr1YKaUvTJO7KEFobhSOBPw0xyXo326RUZhYRp6TrLvRJlvKuwxJ vIp+SHKmCmbCPIv6/PY9uwX2PoUCyvXr1IuPWa4hGqr4RqDiCQ= Received: from pb-smtp20.sea.icgroup.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp20.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A96DF6D3E; Sun, 1 Nov 2020 13:22:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kyle@kyleam.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=kyleam.com; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mesmtp; bh=rzhA5s9kKQ6MAQxtcF664q7S2FmHFB/Y0LIKAppONt0=; b=WBF+xDYL8xV5PWE4Wh5IkBDZWk1I+z7xVoAMdni6vvo/oBY5ESZ4E/YvHX8g3BbRgFjRZSRav5en/XFl354wgLEVKvQkxCe2qS2wXNKL74fIItL2OKsrbjMQ5LBla5qw5Qbsct7QREgIa+Z4d3M0FavEAitxMS97wM4oGKzV0lA= Received: from localhost (unknown [45.33.91.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pb-smtp20.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7DB40F6D3C; Sun, 1 Nov 2020 13:22:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kyle@kyleam.com) From: Kyle Meyer To: Gustav =?utf-8?Q?Wikstr=C3=B6m?= Subject: Re: Default fold state of property drawers? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=pobox.com header.s=sasl header.b=Psrr05Hm; dkim=pass header.d=kyleam.com header.s=mesmtp header.b=WBF+xDYL; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.21 X-TUID: 9npA8casLA4b Gustav Wikstr=C3=B6m writes: > But maybe my issue rather lies in how the visibility toggling with > S-TAB functions. The file property drawer is open in OVERVIEW and > CONTENT but hidden in SHOW ALL. My intuition says that the > file-property drawer should be closed for all toggle-states. Thoughts? I agree. While I've never used file-level property drawers, my expectation would be for them to behave in the same way a heading's would. FWIW when you introduced file-level property drawers in 1bdff9f73 (Org document property-drawers, 2019-05-26), it looks like cycling wasn't considered and S-TAB would just ignore these drawers, preserving their current state. The cycling behavior you described above appears to come with 1aa095ccf (Fix drawer invisibility, 2020-06-06). I think that was in response to . While I haven't taken a close look, my guess is that the effect on file-level property drawers was unintended, and that improvements here would be welcomed.