From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id EAz5NYwd42AYogAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 05 Jul 2021 16:56:12 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id uIuPMYwd42A0bQAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 05 Jul 2021 14:56:12 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 153E9114B0 for ; Mon, 5 Jul 2021 16:56:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:60572 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m0Q15-0007ZE-2M for larch@yhetil.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2021 10:56:11 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46750) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m0Q02-00072v-EA for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2021 10:55:06 -0400 Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:60864) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m0Q00-0004MX-I4 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2021 10:55:06 -0400 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m0Pzy-0003Tk-E7 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2021 16:55:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org From: Uwe Brauer Subject: Re: export org table to other formats (gnumeric or scalc or xlsx) Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2021 16:51:41 +0200 Message-ID: <87lf6k4xvm.fsf@mat.ucm.es> References: <87o8bickwk.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87fswtn1ei.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=sha256; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:y0OLH01PijPxVxSzvwQ4m+OviMk= Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geo-emacs-orgmode@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1625496972; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=X607ec612CoKnZOYKINerr8X0XSKhGYkEKpAtwHvLh4=; b=twctdJxJLBjO1mUPiFfbYFbzoCXMcGNO1gYlkvshzedTkQz6Qekh2mtUMd0UfNVfbwyhjP kSLnTIQ5H0BJLfLOMOMsVUuF7RKaG+b/FnWx08GSUh7KFip7p3rLZs6v2Y/qedOXTF8+CW Va91jvSxWDtjRkcLBRAolP5xkzNbQPeAItZPbFBh/z+i6p7kNp1BCMeM+UrI8fvb1P+Lm9 xBdQFd2jdRzYrnDsgIF3/y8T977Hl0zrp5SsumDuV1pbf8fMFItBXbpDPDbGg3BJ+8x7u6 E0BHvtDh9tsl7oFVMOECA8L8IgyWTSy3BJ7XixccL6tazC0jvBOoCVznuxlUXQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1625496972; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=QxS64N8bv/x5AJIqlmHkbJrVrGO2L4YONq1madx+cwjqi14XquGBDiByc1jMxNXBjafzqj sAGaen+PM8ar1Et/bXmL4wSK3zvbsko9OYez/fMYfJJTUaxEbloTkiFWmMOKTo0G8lyLBI qAhKy495HH8DrweOjIC2lqPzSDteqsJKNqWZzzvPnNvLRi5xHfRhS4AXZOF9nPszCVVEdt GD6kVi+BiEuKCYpth4LTbHkV31hSg+/5XmvakzbhbCPmqXpCXLLpbsaBWJYwnK49DetVst lJUvyc3uKIc1uBh8KDxM8hg9vehqlwlssyLM4uG5xYxre4QBRNfUaJkVJDmH0g== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=mat.ucm.es (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.91 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=mat.ucm.es (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 153E9114B0 X-Spam-Score: -3.91 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: ZFZF5fMAtRDP --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain > Uwe Brauer writes: > The big problem here is that there is no single format understood by all > these different programs which you can use. While CSV works OK for data, > it does not support formulas and other meta data. In particular, > translating formulas is a real challenge. > I went down this rabbit hole some years back i.e. having a workflow > which allowed me to interact with others who used Excel and allowing me > to use org mode. > It took hours and hours of additional work and never worked reliably > because > - I never found a way of 'exporting' to a format which could be imported > by Excel and included formulas > - None of the Excel export formats support full export of Excel - > especially at the meta data level i.e. Visual Basic macros and other > 'objects'. Workbooks were a real pain. So if I understand you correctly you exported/imported formulas *manually*. 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