From: "Juan Manuel Macías" <maciaschain@posteo.net>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com>
Cc: orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Explicit page breaks (was: Create in Org a bilingual book with facing pages)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2022 07:50:47 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87leq49bu0.fsf_-_@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87v8p8fatt.fsf@localhost> (Ihor Radchenko's message of "Wed, 28 Sep 2022 11:15:58 +0800")
Ihor Radchenko writes:
>>> 1. \clearpage command, which reminds me about
>>> https://orgmode.org/list/87mtamjrft.fsf@localhost
>>> May it be useful to have page break syntax element in Org?
>>
>> I really don't have an opinion at the moment... As a user I try to put
>> as few direct LaTeX commands as possible: commands like \newpage,
>> \pagebreak, \clearpage, \bigskip, \quad, etc. Whenever I can, I
>> prefer to control spaces and page breaks using more general macros. And,
>> when I put these commands, the fact of resorting to an export snippet
>> does not usually bother me, since they are not very verbose commands.
>> But I don't know what other users will think...
>
> Fine-tuning commands should indeed be dedicated to specific export
> backends. It is generally meaningless to have \clearpage in html export.
>
> However, \pagebreak specifically is something people use in plain text
> files, and it may be useful for odt exports.
I agree. In the case of odt its xml is a pain for me to deal with, and
usually I have to open an odt document in Emacs and look at the
contents.xml file to find the (probably) correct tag Between that
hideous labyrinth of tags :-)
Well, considering that the most sensible place (IMO) to introduce an
explicit page break would be before almost anything that isn't a section
(since in sections page breaks should be defined by style), how about
something like this:
#+ATTR_LATEX: :pagebreak \clearpage
#+ATTR_ODT: :pagebreak t
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit...
(In the case of LaTeX the expected value of :pagebreak could be any of
several commands that LaTeX has for page breaking (or any other
arbitrary code). And if you put :pagebreak t, the default value would be
\pagebreak.
And to introduce an explicit break before a heading, the above could be
added as a property.
Best regards,
Juan Manuel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-09-28 10:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-27 9:09 Create in Org a bilingual book with facing pages Juan Manuel Macías
2022-09-27 12:29 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-27 16:50 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-09-28 3:15 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-28 7:50 ` Juan Manuel Macías [this message]
2022-09-29 3:13 ` Explicit page breaks (was: Create in Org a bilingual book with facing pages) Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-29 5:29 ` Explicit page breaks Juan Manuel Macías
2022-09-29 6:05 ` Max Nikulin
2022-09-29 6:21 ` Thomas S. Dye
2022-10-03 7:14 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-04 20:24 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-05 7:59 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-27 16:34 ` Create in Org a bilingual book with facing pages Hendursaga
2022-09-28 6:14 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-09-28 14:14 ` Hendursaga
2022-09-28 15:14 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-09-28 7:14 ` Christian Moe
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