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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1667026013; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=/jtW/8Drb4gendqiyEpDZgYL1lUiC1WCTvyWQ/TCaM4=; b=FaXbwDnsImf1e3FUX/CxmjqmgWxRbK/RG+b9jK5c3Q8M9/etLmFPQw1smgUfkfhDLDMD+A I8nZxALtcskSR/8aWj/LNyvIrsZMEHf5gximMdU3DLVk/Q6iYs5Hlkkp66zW52z9auuCft iNfO9v6FxK2GMPHblWWQDFSJXWA0KdqQ+ybjy3iybxs5j07r0H1rr4oOmjhzEEOlnORLSE G62uze0ylJdsilz6D+K0uIad7jzm1cBky+0WoByru5PnTSudplTFN9hwoDvZjUc57l5Ldj /KR5qZ96PX+grnkWRHNQJVkTpzJMEgL2NXRdsgAPcjV6xbeMCkrVgjs55CwxsA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1667026013; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Tn5Uk4MTbmMZWeqmp0gv/87/HnK0oVYI9dexqecOA7cc+Qp/V5KiccFBoJyHBMNMyXnW9T gQU423mN9iYiUN0ngPehcmp2h9dTZZEHQyUWS4fGtTOFO5UemrS/nv5jT0SScPFebw6J+e FLNLUKKjoHphyqGury9s1E+2iL5tDF/mvzqS93svPqaSqZ5EHfEaR9fCb4CYnu/50S0tkO V6gZA+dTWEkN8E7Y9ISeohapo8svVJnyQ9Syk1SbveNIq1i/Vzj3BOj6X1q2dHZ3hNOH4T DBnXxlMExx8o/eUJQuBwADF2kcmkY5YPGMndcR1vlAZ7zE2Cbo3lbv4hHNVHRQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=gcIoTxU3; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.13 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=gcIoTxU3; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 3C3179847 X-Spam-Score: -2.13 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: ffLo5eez1Umo Uwe Brauer writes: >>> Couldn't in the last step the hlines be respected? > >> That would not make sense. >> AFAIK, table.el has no notion of hlines. The +---+ separators in >> table.el tables mark cell boundaries, not hlines. > > It would make sense if I later want to export the final table (after converting org-->table-->org org-->table conversion is not reversible. hlines are not part of table.el syntax and cannot be retained. > To say latex. There the hlines make a difference, that is why I am asking I recommend using native Org tables. Do you need a specific table.el feature that you miss in native Org tables? -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at