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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1672330429; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=LRi22d4L6hP+lqF+2Hb7I+bhggqZ+YJg45My0qWZATo=; b=EIdLKwn3Hy/37ekzt17AhyLuG4Xrq+iBy59kh7yQzdlx+8iDoZA1fVfW5qy99RZdVtTLgT B4N4+D77AJytspyQ3zX3Tkl07vWQpVwbSuRbfuQn/GSiC/hOwqpc8dFQ2t5W4FjWGFJ+Ct W1IHYOCLopNeXXcRABhpwJvs62tWQX5t6oXQER6Y5b+0y8WkOBg0LvDDdn7lg7kyRirv6T Qkn0GsaapMlJqaNVlMIj7aCYk0/kfOYXIacI0qGVG8ie6IUN8+NnELGsEwnOQXZEZDR7G2 t0SjDGi+l/J6MTg0+DGxXxZJDK0UuYWt4uiZIiCCQ52iq2oYA6K8JwUQpBORnQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=YBxxr2le; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1672330429; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=sHDOTJhbSfi/nPdTFaJ1OXkj0zii5SaJCpBoRpmmxM1aDJbRPUN9M5T+zd/5AG58fyDJ1D PaPereeW9kyzsiRr0nCV/XerhwAaB8JpxMU5AhiRTPLB1Ak4j4U1samPqOAA6czUjYUTPL Lbx+o6OGgxviYQL8o3OptUvamOm1aSpa9xSk3gP7BWAqRsJyiey4+kZTgxqs1UEeKFGD3G 5Li3wJ7wQ5arZ44hFW83rJAzjgFv3L+mUtBl33bpBsOxKiNS1s5Nqdl3bEVcZgZrkXVreR vxQtdvACdZt2XpzwtnXdMMqNNkiSMnKsduGncR/6HuMkrfrs6UZZEVt9tchdlg== X-Spam-Score: -4.96 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 623D837539 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=YBxxr2le; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.96 X-TUID: fLXq2sntHjSQ Ihor Radchenko writes: > Bastien writes: > >> I think it is a very good idea and a natural evolution of org-contrib, >> thanks for suggesting this. >> ... >> We can announce this along with the Org 9.6 release. > > So, we now have https://orgmode.org/worg/org-orphanage.html > > It is very bare bones. :) > We can add the following: > > 1. Mention orphanage at https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contribute.html > Probably, in a visible way, as a div box. I added a mention early on in the page, but perhaps this can be made more prominent. > 2. Add org-contrib Done. > 3. Link to orphanage from https://sr.ht/~bzg/org/ Done. > 4. Maybe add a separate section to updates.orgmode.org Not done, as updates.orgmode.org will be deprecated soon. > 5. We can offer to move orphaned repositories to sr.ht under our control > and mention that we can do minimal maintenance then. I'm not sure about this. Another idea is to rename org-contrib to org-orphanage and to offer to add *.el files there? This way we make it very obvious that these files receive minimal maintenance while allowing users to install them through GNU ELPA. WDYT? -- Bastien