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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1673082556; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=5WiMAWm1PylYwWIRU0CQ9otkv9clWYoSIj4LOzY1pAA=; b=Uwlkn+OkvEsfhUEwaXAVml+dDQPkxZw95zBYEYmqA1sAGOfEGD2fk9JmBV4CW2YgIG1RWj 5IvUVj36sh28YzeMJtcbHHyCkuaky/2s8C6qMwTH8d+YrPmn52Cg8nMCAEXtuSZMYrA5nn r9v6nKK5HXDPzxENC13PgCREe9JdS2sSMJnUiKMn9vR7meXsRIYLNtlbY2hU2LjTMfVHA5 253ZgDyLv+mR6QJpMiSYiYX4QYVwA+dr+LqTabVu2VHP/HI+0SSIz2/HeGR8EkBZ74OFeW Uu9odNcv1qiH57Xdvtdro5w1dLX8FY4GL0lU8GNo2OSLpkmvDQWle4H5Hx8CgQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=SrYoCH2s; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1673082556; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=pmWepNeRtQYaU8tHzjWgCRCmy2Vb7apv0LVUe9ENiKC5ti52acB7BYJmmhPWV4g3cARKxe HLj7ijFZ/tlAU5UWBppIdra6eW5V34+4e77rzaJJqdYjT4yN4Pv/oKrBiF05ldYOnQyD+G PhVD4Nd7t8wnns5OqymM9FBzS1QhMwntqbV5ierDt2ClMMaLPKnoZgq4sWjWsZXfSnEobW AsuVY8NMG5usvjKUghRWdxRPVCvYCc/dR27qW7Mxa47oEA7eOWw650oW5WHWy7l406/ktJ Cl3gCh1vskjSRONekhsCkbjpgxT1ceX/CIlBA068hBVIsCWoQAwDpTO/YxJbIw== X-Spam-Score: -4.00 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 515812CE72 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=SrYoCH2s; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.00 X-TUID: UaSRNUuCnhQO Jean Louis writes: > * Ihor Radchenko [2023-01-05 14:17]: >> Could you please elaborate what is bad about the design and maybe >> provide some ideas how it can be improved? > > ... > The ideas have been sent as concept to you, then as full package, > which I now use daily, so it is to derive the mode, define key > bindings, decide how to display toggling of variables for body, scope, > async, etc. and generate hyperlinks for export. I though that you objected the design of `org-export-define-backend' and the backend objects. Menus have little to do with it, merely following the key bindings suggested by export backend authors. If you just object the export menu system, let's go back to the main discussion about non-blocking menus in other branches of this thread. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at