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From: Jack Kamm <jackkamm@gmail.com>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
Cc: Liu Hui <liuhui1610@gmail.com>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Set Python shell in Org edit buffer
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2024 22:21:09 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87le8x3e0a.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zfxewewe.fsf@localhost>

Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> writes:

> See the attached tentative patch.

Thanks!

> ---
>  etc/ORG-NEWS     | 11 +++++++++++
>  lisp/ob-R.el     | 20 ++++++--------------
>  lisp/ob-julia.el | 16 +++++++++-------
>  3 files changed, 26 insertions(+), 21 deletions(-)

Not sure if you are doing this in a separate commit, but you also need
to make the change to org-src.el to remove

(org-babel-comint-buffer-livep session)

in `org-src-associate-babel-session'. Else,
`org-babel-R-associate-session' won't run if there's no live session,
and hence ESS won't create new session with the right name.

>  * Version 9.7 (not released yet)
>  ** Important announcements and breaking changes
> +*** ~org-edit-special~ no longer force-starts session in R and Julia source blocks
> +
> +Previously, when R/Julia source block had =:session= header argument
> +set to a session name with "earmuffs" (like =*session-name*=),
> +~org-edit-special~ always started a session, if it does not exist.
> +
> +Now, ~org-edit-special~ arranges that a new session with correct name
> +is initiated only when user explicitly executes R/Julia-mode commands
> +that trigger session interactions.  The same session will remain
> +available in the context of Org babel.

I tested the patch (plus the additional change to org-src.el), with an
Org file with following 2 blocks:

#+begin_src R :session foo :results output
  print('foo')
#+end_src

#+begin_src R :session *bar* :results output
  print('bar')
#+end_src

On block "foo", I did C-', and then ess-eval-line. It creates a session
named "foo", as expected.

On block "*bar*", I did the same. It does not create session named
"*bar*", instead evaluating in session "foo". It seems ESS will always
assume you want to evaluate in existing session if one exists, rather
than start a new associated session, and it seems there is no way to
tell it to behave otherwise.

However, calling "M-x R" while editing block "*bar*" does create session
"*bar*" with correct name.

After sessions "foo" and "*bar*" have both been created, doing C-' and
then ess-eval-line will evaluate in the correct session.

It's annoying there's no way to tell ESS to start new session instead of
evaluating in existing one. Here are a few alternatives we could
consider to deal with this:

1. Change the worg/ORG-NEWS, to suggest users make sure the session
exists (either by evaluating a source block or call "M-x R" in edit
block) before running ess-eval-line.

2. Add ob-R and ob-julia customization options (as previously suggested)
to explicitly control the startup behavior (either to auto-start, or not).

3. Submit PR to ESS to add a variable we could let-bind, to force it to
start an associated session rather than evaluate in an existing
non-associated sessions.

Currently I lean towards a combination of #1 and #3, but am not sure,
and happy to go with whatever you think is best.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-10  6:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-05 10:18 [PATCH] Set Python shell in Org edit buffer Liu Hui
2023-12-05 11:51 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-06  4:41   ` Liu Hui
2023-12-06 13:23     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-07  4:45       ` Liu Hui
2023-12-07 10:36         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-07 14:17           ` Liu Hui
2023-12-07 15:19             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-08 10:19               ` Liu Hui
2023-12-08 13:09                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-09  2:33                   ` Liu Hui
2023-12-09 10:32                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-09 13:36                       ` Liu Hui
2023-12-27  6:04                         ` Jack Kamm
2023-12-28 11:48                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-31 18:31                             ` Jack Kamm
2024-01-05 13:45                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-05 23:29                                 ` Christopher M. Miles
2024-01-12 11:58                                   ` [ob-clojure] Clojure sessions in Org Src buffers (was: [PATCH] Set Python shell in Org edit buffer) Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-07  6:07                                 ` [PATCH] Set Python shell in Org edit buffer Jack Kamm
2024-01-07 12:54                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-07 19:06                                     ` Jack Kamm
2024-01-07 23:14                                       ` William Denton
2024-01-08 12:26                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-09  4:09                                         ` Jack Kamm
2024-01-09  4:25                                           ` Jack Kamm
2024-01-09 18:16                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-10  6:21                                             ` Jack Kamm [this message]
2024-01-10 12:18                                               ` [FR] Add buffer-local setting to request specific ESS process/session name (was: [PATCH] Set Python shell in Org edit buffer) Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-10 19:14                                                 ` Sparapani, Rodney
2024-01-10 19:15                                                   ` Sparapani, Rodney
2024-01-10 19:31                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-10 19:39                                                       ` Sparapani, Rodney
2024-01-10 20:15                                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-10 21:44                                                           ` [External] " Richard M. Heiberger
2024-01-10 21:53                                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-21 11:48                                                           ` [PATCH] " Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-21 18:21                                                             ` Sparapani, Rodney
2024-01-22 12:13                                                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-22 13:46                                                                 ` Martin Maechler
2024-01-25 13:09                                                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-25 15:23                                                                     ` Sparapani, Rodney
2024-01-25 15:33                                                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-25 15:42                                                                         ` Sparapani, Rodney
2024-01-25 22:47                                                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-10 12:19                                               ` [PATCH] Set Python shell in Org edit buffer Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-14 17:23                                                 ` Jack Kamm
2024-01-16 13:49                                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-16 16:05                                                     ` Jack Kamm
2024-01-28 19:12                                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-29  4:23                                                         ` Jack Kamm
2023-12-27  6:07                       ` Jack Kamm
2023-12-28 11:51                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-29 16:04                           ` Jack Kamm
2023-12-31 13:05                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-31 18:14                               ` Jack Kamm
2024-01-05 14:00                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-29 22:20                 ` Jack Kamm
2023-12-30  7:08                   ` Liu Hui
2024-01-28 20:35         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-29  4:21           ` Jack Kamm
2024-01-29 13:31             ` Ihor Radchenko

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