From: David Maus <maus.david@gmail.com>
To: jemarch@gnu.org
Cc: Keith Lancaster <klancaster1957@acm.org>,
Org Mode List <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [OT] Emacs for email?
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 21:30:12 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k4x59l0r.wl%maus.david@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87skbtnxrq.wl%jemarch@gnu.org>
At Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:31:05 +0100,
jemarch@gnu.org wrote:
>
>
> These and the others you will find allude to this approach fitting
> in with the more general GTD view, which is why org-mode is
> critical (for me) to get this working.
>
> I actually do something similar, but keeping the physical emails. I
> maintain (in wanderlust) an Inbox folder and a General folder to hold
> my emails. I process the Inbox in a GTD style. For each message:
>
> 1) If it is not interesting, delete.
> 2) If it is useful for reference, archive it in the ref system and
> move the email to General, without storing any link to it in my
> reference system.
> 3) If it is an email that I can answer quickly, do it and move the
> email to General.
> 4) If it is an email that I want to answer but that requires some
> previous investigation/action, I move the email to General and,
> using remember, create a new NEXT item in my todo.org. The NEXT
> item has an hyperlink pointing to the email in the General mbox.
>
> Now, I wonder if is it possible to implement the previous system
> without having to maintain the General mbox (that is huge). It is
> clear that I could simply remove the emails in 2) after archiving its
> contents in my reference system. But, what about the emails in 3) and
> 4)? How do you store an email that you will eventually answer if not
> in an mbox?
I just started to stop maintaining my inbox at all appr. 3 weeks ago
and up to now it's working fine. I am currently not getting that much
email so I can't tell if it will work out but I seems to be a
interesting way to go.
So, what I do is this:
- I do not use the regular orgmode link to wanderlust messages,
because up to now the folder a message is in (or is refiled to) is
part of the link; what means that if I move the message somewhere
else I know for certain that the link in orgmode is broken.
I want to store a link to a message regardless where the message
resides, so I use a "Namazu search folder" (Manual 3.9). That is: I
index my messages regularly (once per hour is enough for me) with
Namazu (www.namazu.org) and use a special remember template for
messages with a hand-crafted link to the search folder:
,----
| [[wl:%5B%:message-id%5D~/.elmo/namazu#%:message-id][%:message-id]]
`----
Opening these links with Orgmode works fine: It fires up Wanderlust
and opens the message with the particular message id.
The only thing that bugs me is that I have to hand craft the
search-folder-links manually and hence need a special remember
template for messages.
Luckily Orgmode is free software so I started to work on a patch
that expands Orgmode's capabilities on storing links to wanderlust
messages, including Namazu search folders[1].
- all new messages go in the inbox
- I do not access the inbox directly but use a "Filter Folder" (Manual
3.11) that shows unread messages and messages flagged as "important" ($)
.folders
,----
| /flag:digest/%INBOX "Inbox (Digest)"
`----
- If new messages are in the inbox they are show in this folder; I
read every message:
- if the message is useful for reference, I use a remember template
that stores a special hand-crafted link mentioned above
- if the message requires an answer, I mark it "important" und file
a remember template that references this message with the
hand-crafted link
- if I am not certain whether I should answer the message or not it
is marked "important"; so they stay in sight.
- in all other cases reading the message moves it out of the filter
folder next time I open it
- I archived received and sent messages of the previous year in january
but playing with Wanderlust's build-in archive functions (Manual,
Chp. 9: Automatic Expiration and Archiving of Messages) is on my
list
To sum it up: I solved the problem of "Zero Inbox" not by moving
and/or deleting mails but by using Wanderlust's capabilities of
showing messages based on different criterions. So maybe the question
is not where to /store/ messages but how to access them.
Regards,
-- David
PS: Hum. While writing this I notice that marking messages as
important and filing a todo-item is redundant. So "mark important"
should go for messages I am not certain about whether I should reply
or not.
[1] There will be a proposal soon.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-02 20:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-01 21:34 [OT] Emacs for email? Keith Lancaster
2009-12-01 22:59 ` Ben Finney
2009-12-02 7:59 ` Tassilo Horn
2009-12-02 8:31 ` Ben Finney
2009-12-02 9:23 ` bluedian
2009-12-01 23:28 ` David Bremner
2009-12-01 23:36 ` Nick Dokos
2009-12-01 23:57 ` Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
2009-12-02 0:39 ` Keith Lancaster
2009-12-02 14:22 ` Leo
2009-12-02 18:38 ` David Neu
2009-12-02 22:48 ` Eric Schulte
2009-12-02 23:08 ` Keith Lancaster
2009-12-03 5:21 ` Rémi Vanicat
2009-12-02 13:43 ` Matt Price
2009-12-02 21:04 ` David Maus
2009-12-03 16:53 ` Matt Price
2009-12-03 21:55 ` Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
2009-12-02 0:40 ` Matt Lundin
2009-12-02 1:02 ` Henri-Paul Indiogine
2009-12-02 8:03 ` Tassilo Horn
2009-12-02 2:15 ` Dan Davison
2009-12-02 2:56 ` Russell Adams
2009-12-02 6:36 ` Manuel Hermenegildo
2009-12-02 6:39 ` Gour
2009-12-03 7:05 ` Russell Adams
2009-12-03 6:38 ` Rémi Vanicat
2009-12-03 8:22 ` Ulf Stegemann
2009-12-03 11:25 ` Matt Lundin
2009-12-03 10:53 ` Bernt Hansen
2009-12-02 6:30 ` Xavier Maillard
2009-12-02 9:37 ` Eric S Fraga
2009-12-02 11:01 ` jemarch
2009-12-02 14:24 ` Eric S Fraga
2009-12-02 16:31 ` jemarch
2009-12-02 20:30 ` David Maus [this message]
2009-12-02 17:31 ` Rémi Vanicat
2009-12-02 18:33 ` Eric Schulte
2009-12-02 19:03 ` Matt Lundin
2009-12-02 17:00 ` Russell Adams
2009-12-02 12:58 ` Otto Diesenbacher
2009-12-03 17:10 ` Henri-Paul Indiogine
2009-12-03 17:51 ` Matt Lundin
2009-12-03 19:53 ` Enrico Indiogine
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