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From: Bastien <bzg@altern.org>
To: Achim Gratz <Stromeko@nexgo.de>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: org-plus-contrib: Invalid function: org-no-popups
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 14:11:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k3r05bt0.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sj5o155t.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (Achim Gratz's message of "Sat, 26 Jan 2013 13:48:30 +0100")

Hi Achim,

Achim Gratz <Stromeko@nexgo.de> writes:

>> - it advices `require', which is a very core function in Emacs.
> Which has been discussed on Emacs devel and has been pronounced safe in
> this case.

No.  Stefan just said it was safe to *experiment* with it.

> Like a few hundred other places in Emacs and Org.  Also, when some day
> Emacs will perhaps solve the problem, the solution will likely be
> something very similar: renaming the require primitive and creating a
> wrapper in Lisp that does what the advice is doing.

Feel free to push into that direction in Emacs.

>> This is like telling Windows users to reboot their system so that it
>> can works correctly (remember the old days?).  It feels wrong.  And I 
>> doubt we can educate the users -- there are many of them, and many
>> don't have the time to tell they have a problem.
> So why are you trying to educate users not to use ELPA when you think
> it's a waste of time?

I'm not educating anyone.  For users who have problems when installing
Org through ELPA, I advise them to use another method.

> You're confusing me.  Do you want to remove Org from ELPA or not?

I think this is a good option, but I will ping users before,
as I already said.

Please don't waste your time and mine arguing about this.


      reply	other threads:[~2013-01-26 13:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-23 17:42 Moritz Ulrich
2013-01-24 14:08 ` Bastien
2013-01-24 20:42 ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-24 21:59   ` Bastien
2013-01-25  6:48     ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-25  8:51       ` Bastien
2013-01-25 10:33         ` Bastien
2013-01-25 19:59         ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-26 10:45           ` Bastien
2013-01-26 12:48             ` Achim Gratz
2013-01-26 13:11               ` Bastien [this message]

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