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From: Nick Dokos <ndokos@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: org-mode + icicles, avoid key binding redefinitions?
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 08:16:39 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k3dj6i88.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 52E8E982.6070701@miszellen.de

Florian Beck <fb@miszellen.de> writes:

> On 28.01.2014 10:08, Bastien wrote:
>
>> I think most of these keybindings could migrate to a C-c C- version.
>
> There is no need for migrating them IMO.
>
> The recommendation is:
>
>    Sequences consisting of `C-c' followed by any other punctuation
>    character are allocated for minor modes.  Using them in a major
>    mode is not absolutely prohibited, but if you do that, the major
>    mode binding may be shadowed from time to time by minor modes.
>
> This means important commands should have a binding reserved for major
> modes. But there is absolutely no need to remove bindings which (for
> many org users) have worked just fine for a long time.

But it's not just a matter of satisfying rules: it's a matter of making
it easy on users. Having a "bad" binding as well as a "good" binding for
something would mean that if I load a minor mode that takes over the
"bad" binding, I would then lose it in the major mode and have to
remember the "good" binding. That's more confusing IMO than having a
single "good" binding: if we need to retrain fingers, we need to retrain
them once, not every time we load a minor mode that steps on some
binding.

I find myself more in agreement with Seb than with Bastien here. The
argument that reducing the number of "bad" bindings reduces the chance
of conflicts does not hold water IMO: we will always have to be looking
in the rear-view mirror for some minor mode that will step on us. If
it's an important enough problem to solve, we should just follow the
emacs guidelines in their entirety.

-- 
Nick

  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-29 13:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-23  4:45 org-mode + icicles, avoid key binding redefinitions? Drew Adams
2014-01-23  7:43 ` Bastien
2014-01-23 15:33   ` Drew Adams
2014-01-23 15:46     ` Bastien
2014-01-23 16:28       ` Drew Adams
2014-01-23 16:34         ` Bastien
2014-01-23 17:01           ` Drew Adams
2014-01-23 22:24             ` Bastien
2014-01-23 22:56               ` Drew Adams
2014-01-23 23:29               ` Thomas S. Dye
2014-01-24  8:39                 ` Bastien
2014-01-25  7:34                   ` Thomas S. Dye
2014-01-28  9:08                     ` Bastien
2014-01-29  8:43                       ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-01-29  9:39                         ` Bastien
2014-01-29 10:35                           ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-01-29 11:00                             ` Bastien
2014-01-29 11:32                               ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-01-29 17:34                         ` Thomas S. Dye
2014-01-29 17:48                           ` Bastien
2014-01-29 19:48                             ` Thomas S. Dye
2014-01-29 20:11                               ` Iannis Zannos
2014-01-30  0:39                               ` Bastien
2014-01-29 11:44                       ` Florian Beck
2014-01-29 13:16                         ` Nick Dokos [this message]
2014-01-29 13:52                           ` Bastien
2014-01-29 18:01                             ` Achim Gratz
2014-01-29 20:06                             ` Andreas Leha
2014-01-29 20:13                               ` Iannis Zannos
2014-01-29 14:43                           ` Florian Beck
2014-01-29 15:40                             ` Bastien
2014-01-29 16:20                               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2014-01-23 13:57 ` Alan Schmitt
2014-01-23 15:33   ` Drew Adams
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-01-18 19:49 John Kitchin
2014-01-18 21:40 ` Alan Schmitt
2014-01-19 15:53 ` Bastien
2014-01-19 17:31 ` Memnon Anon
2014-01-19 20:56   ` John Kitchin
2014-01-20  2:34     ` Memnon Anon
2014-01-20 23:12       ` Alan Schmitt

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