From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Daniel Clemente Subject: Re: org-mode for knowledge management Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:47:24 +0700 Message-ID: <87k343cnxv.wl-n142857@gmail.com> References: <87oatkkdes.fsf@wmi.amu.edu.pl> <87siiwc4gd.wl-n142857@gmail.com> <87fvevgvv9.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <871tqc3d2j.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87lhokd5ii.wl-n142857@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43158) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xdt5O-0004tD-DV for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 23:47:53 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xdt5H-0003t0-GU for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 23:47:46 -0400 Received: from mail-pa0-x231.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::231]:60244) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xdt5G-0003sw-Rz for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 23:47:39 -0400 Received: by mail-pa0-f49.google.com with SMTP id hz1so6930187pad.22 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 20:47:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Samuel Wales Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Thanks, that's a very simple way to search backlinks! I didn't know about o= rg-search-view. El Sun, 12 Oct 2014 22:17:27 -0700 Samuel Wales va escriure: >=20 > (defun alpha-org-what-links-here () > "Show all links that point to the current node. Also show the > node itself. >=20 > This makes id links quasi-bidirectional." > (interactive) > (let ((org-agenda-files (alpha-org-all-org-files > :archive t > :text-search-extra t)) > ;; turn off redundancy > ;; fixme probably going to be redone > org-agenda-text-search-extra-files) > (org-search-view nil (org-entry-get nil "ID" t)))) >=20 >=20 > On 10/12/14, Daniel Clemente wrote: > > El Mon, 13 Oct 2014 10:42:28 +0800 Eric Abrahamsen va escriure: > >> > > >> > This is the bit I'm not sure about... > >> > > >> > * project_a > >> > ** experiment about blah :proj_name:theme: > >> > [2014-10-11] > >> > > >> > Did x, y, and z today. Will analyze results tomorrow. > >> > > >> > [2014-10-12] > >> > > >> > Wow. Interesting finding. This will help a lot and may be relevant to > >> > future projects! > >> > > >> =E2=80=A6 > >> > >> Perhaps both links and tags are what you're after then: you could leave > >> a link to the general finding inside "experiment about blah" (to remind > >> yourself you took that note), but also use the tags to open Agendas on > >> both project and theme, so you can see all the relevant information in > >> one place. > >> > > > > > >> > * project_a > >> > ** experiment about blah :proj_name:theme: > > > > I think it's crazy to use topics as tags. How many topics/themes are > > there? Wikipedia counts many million. Names of topic are very subjectiv= e. > > Topics are often mixed, split apart, refined, renamed, grouped in > > supertopics, =E2=80=A6 > > In org it's easy to remodel hierarchical headers but it's not easy to > > remodel tags (much less, hierarchical tags). > > > > So rather than: > > > > ** some construction :plastics_engineering: > > > > > > I would have: > > > > Engineering.org: > > * Plastics > > * Houses > > * =E2=80=A6 > > > > > > I understand you use tags and =E2=80=9Etag search=E2=80=9C to be able= to look for bits of > > a particular topic in a file which is not related to the topic. > > It would be better to have a tag that in addition links to a particul= ar > > tree. With that you'd have the freedom of tagging anything and the > > flexibility of headers. > > > > Some brainstorming about how to link tags with headers: Two options: > > > > 1) There is a main tag in a header, and the other tags link to it (with= C-c > > C-o you navigate to the main tag). > > > > proj1.org: > > ** some construction :plastics_engineering: > > > > Engineering.org: :<<>>: > > * Plastics > > * Houses > > * =E2=80=A6 > > > > > > 2) You use links and you ask for backlinks > > > > proj1.org: > > ** some construction [link to P] > > > > Engineering.org: > > * Plastics > > :ID: 1231212311122 > > * Houses > > * =E2=80=A6 > > > > And then=E2=80=A6 a key to *search for links to a header* (=E2=80=9Ebac= klinks=E2=80=9C). Can org do > > this now?. > > E.g. you go to =E2=80=9EPlastics=E2=80=9C and you search =E2=80=9Eall t= he backlinks found in > > proj1.org=E2=80=9C. Then you have the generic knowledge and in addition= all the bits > > of specific knowledge about that topic. > > > > > > Maybe this is already possible=E2=80=A6 Whether it's useful, I don't kn= ow. > > > > >=20 >=20 > --=20 > The Kafka Pandemic: http://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com >=20 > The disease DOES progress. MANY people have died from it. And > ANYBODY can get it. >=20 > Denmark: free Karina Hansen NOW.