From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Nathan Aclander Subject: Re: Bug: shiftmeta[left|right] on multi line items [9.1.2 (release_9.1.2-40-g6ca906 @ /usr/local/share/emacs/27.0.50/lisp/org/)] Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2017 16:41:25 -0800 Message-ID: <87k1xvwh1m.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87a7zezz4e.fsf@gmail.com> <87r2seuzm7.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51631) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eNpgV-0007KB-UJ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Dec 2017 19:41:36 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eNpgS-000470-Pl for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Dec 2017 19:41:35 -0500 Received: from mail-pg0-x22e.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c05::22e]:35973) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eNpgS-00046Z-IF for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Dec 2017 19:41:32 -0500 Received: by mail-pg0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id k134so8811814pga.3 for ; Sat, 09 Dec 2017 16:41:32 -0800 (PST) In-reply-to: <87r2seuzm7.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: Nicolas Goaziou Cc: Nathan Aclander , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Nicolas Goaziou writes: > I don't qualify this as a bug. These commands explicitly work when point > is at the beginning of an item. Indeed, the sub-item may be arbitrarily > large, contain tables... it would be confusing to move the whole > sub-list when its structure is out of sight. Why do you think it would be confusing to move the whole sub-list? Why would it be move confusing when the point is on the sub-item vs. when the point is on the parent item? I think the inconsistency is unintuitive here, and causes confusion. And I think since large sub-items already get moved when the point is at the beginning, it would make sense to also move them when the point is on the sub item. Nathan --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEGeJXVkBwWe7PtHGAT+2Q9qPVLSQFAlosgrUACgkQT+2Q9qPV LSQ6yw/8Dfj0wiS0GAhmmOoVP7T89vmnZ4JZDmdXxkdsqfxNKhRxbcAFYICg6Qua XJRp+CEbPIvNXB7eWdN6b45AOdIPkH7j8QcZvkoRSdyY2F0TBa9viwhkVmtLNIpb NlYEGE8GATGFrM5wdYo4jNsODd/WOpq8PAZehEpe4IW5xYJVcOIm8aHOXr4ZOnqK W1l87KQk6prEjxqJe3+cKfzs6Gfco7Tuwqrl3aOUSjz2bSa8av/ak7UuAwXTPBz9 QXonpFIHy0/Ghqqvyf0FehdTgLNbu79PnS+/H4C9N1FceoGNFUg8zUQkwh6/mZIL ShpbAhZ4PdCx1+JyitCH9qtWNkEFB3s48ASKhM9g3QQxVz+wMW6lHWYVhlsepQDa q3+OU7f97l/m/GDyKmnHY2FvSOXePCqsrEtULEzfAR4imPGpvMv/U5a1SCeoSFHc 1eyaG0rPcUsdbsEFhLXs3bHVcICyVct3jQl+u+JzpYXdZo5xizszKnQNAAylMlW8 NFIq0tf0XR7LD8proAvAIuY+1Nnz0BcIcl9c/mK17k/zH66V1CSkdt9Bb85WUhPf FVKf53GKs72uQTf4WwDwx1HqCqLdTpb1P1tVWFRYVSIX5xo+7WhCKMqVdsX9yoOZ PL7GDuh8TrC9m2cZ4IwyhmAPhGyZ5TfODSr9hsiaWVwjWzIwD0k= =V5VG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--