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From: "Juan Manuel Macías" <maciaschain@posteo.net>
To: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
Cc: orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ox-latex.el: Unify in one single list Babel and Polyglossia languages alists
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2022 16:21:51 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k08av1b4.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <tb3uni$i29$1@ciao.gmane.io> (Max Nikulin's message of "Mon, 18 Jul 2022 22:37:20 +0700")

Max Nikulin writes:

> On 18/07/2022 17:32, Juan Manuel Macías wrote:
>> For example, something like this:
>> latex-lang: babel(sorbian) variant(upper)
>> provide(hebrew:import,hyphenrules=+) options(bidi=default),
>> others(french,catalan)
>> returns:
>> \usepackage[french,catalan,uppersorbian,bidi=default]{babel}
>> \babelprovide[import,hyphenrules=+]{hebrew}
>
> I have never tried so complex babel configuration. Should "latex-lang"
> options affect ox-latex in any way besides adding
> \usepackage[...]{babel} and \babelprovide[...]{...}? If not, maybe it
> is better to use

I really think not. It's more of a way to have a more or less complete
configuration of babel (including font options) in a single line and
with a more org-centric syntax. The drawback is that the user would have
to know in this case what he is putting, and know the babel options.

> #+latex_header: \usepackage[french,catalan,uppersorbian,bidi=default]{babel}
> #+latex_header: \babelprovide[import,hyphenrules=+]{hebrew}

That's what I would do as a user. I write all my preambles in pure LaTeX
and don't let Org write anything before the \begin{document} :-)

> directly and add default \usepackage[french]{babel} based on
> "#+language:" only in the case when babel is not loaded through
> "#+latex_header:". Currently such strategy is implemented for inputenc
> or some other package.

humm, what do you think about this idea?:

If I'm not mistaken, the current behavior is as follows. If in the org
document there is this:

#+latex_header: \usepackage[english,french,AUTO]{babel}
#+language: es

it returns:

\usepackage[english,french,spanish]{babel}

But it could be extended to the new babel syntax, so that:

#+latex_header: \usepackage[french,catalan,AUTO,bidi=default]{babel}
#+latex_header: \babelprovide[import,hyphenrules=+]{hebrew}
#+language: es

returns:

\usepackage[french,catalan,spanish,bidi=default]{babel}
\babelprovide[import,hyphenrules=+]{hebrew}

Or, if we want to load the main language via babelprovide (using an ini
file instead of an ldf file):

#+latex_header: \usepackage[french,catalan,spanish]{babel}
#+latex_header: \babelprovide[main,import]{AUTO}
#+language: ru

returns:

\usepackage[french,catalan,spanish]{babel}
\babelprovide[main,import]{russian}

(in this case french, catalan and spanish are the secondary languages)

And this could be extended (in LuaTeX and XeTeX only) to the class
options (which is a new babel feature):

#+latex_class: article
#+latex_class_options: [11pt,draft,AUTO]
#+LaTeX_Header: \usepackage{babel}
#+language: ru

returns:

\documentclass[11pt,draft,russian]{article}
\usepackage{babel}


  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-18 16:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-03 15:28 [PATCH] ox-latex.el: Unify in one single list Babel and Polyglossia languages alists Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-10  9:25 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-14 12:34   ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-14 15:12     ` Max Nikulin
2022-07-14 15:53       ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-14 18:17         ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-15 12:18           ` Max Nikulin
2022-07-15 14:36             ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-17  9:55     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-17 14:48       ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-18  6:44         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-18 10:32           ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-18 11:01             ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-18 15:37             ` Max Nikulin
2022-07-18 16:21               ` Juan Manuel Macías [this message]
2022-07-19 15:01       ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-19 17:01         ` Max Nikulin
2022-07-19 19:31           ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-20 16:12             ` Max Nikulin
2022-07-20 21:30               ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-21 14:36                 ` Max Nikulin
2022-07-21 15:39                   ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-22 12:16                     ` Max Nikulin
2022-07-22 12:49                       ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-22 14:07                         ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-23 15:19                           ` Max Nikulin
2022-07-23 17:15                             ` Improvements in the default LaTeX preamble (was: [PATCH] ox-latex.el: Unify in one single list Babel and Polyglossia languages alists) Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-24 12:06                               ` Improvements in the default LaTeX preamble: templates? " Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-25  9:31                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-25 10:45                                   ` Improvements in the default LaTeX preamble: templates? Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-23  5:01         ` [PATCH] ox-latex.el: Unify in one single list Babel and Polyglossia languages alists Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-23 13:44           ` BUG " Kai von Fintel
2022-07-23 13:59             ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-23 14:07               ` Kai von Fintel
2022-07-23 14:22                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-23 14:39                   ` Kai von Fintel
2022-07-23 14:50                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-23 15:53                       ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-24  7:15                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-24 11:29                           ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-26 11:58                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-26 16:19                               ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-28 12:36                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-23 14:53                     ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-23 14:11           ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-07-23 14:25             ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-23 15:29           ` Max Nikulin
2022-07-24  7:23             ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-10 10:51 ` Max Nikulin
2022-07-15 15:38   ` Juan Manuel Macías

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