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Similar to our current effort with >> contributor stewards. > > That's a very good idea! > > If these contributor stewards agree, we can even advertise their role > on https://orgmode.org/worg/org-maintenance.html Agree. Which social website do you have in mind? I can ask @alphapapa from /r/orgmode. I guess we can also ask people hanging out on Doom discord and discourse. Maybe also Org roam people. They have discourse. >> May we set a single account on GitHub and link it to Org ML so that >> people can @mention Org team on GitHub, and we automatically get the >> email directly to Org ML? > > I'm against it: it will make it easier for Org ecosystem maintainers > on GitHub to send notifications to the Org ML without joining it while > probably forcing Org maintainers on the ML to follow-up discussions on > GitHub. That's not a positive outcome. Fair point. GitHub email never displays comment edits, and I am not sure how reliable is Github-to-email bridge for complex interactions. > What I suggest instead to do is to document GitHub accounts of Org > core maintainers on worg/org-maintenance.org for those who have one. This sounds reasonable. > This way maintainers of Org libraries on GitHub will know they can @ > these accounts in their issues. And it will stay the responsability > of Org core maintainers to decide how to deal with these issues. > > For some of them, it will just lead to a reply on the issue (as when > Org maintainers contribute to non-official Org spaces, like the Doom > or spacemacs discord servers); for issues that are of importance for > Org core development, we should suggest them to send an email to the > list. I am unsure how visible this kind of information will be for new third-party package maintainers. Should we add some information to Appendix A Hacking section of the manual? (something along the lines that one may contact Org maintainers in other media like IRC, Matrix, etc and then link to worg/org-maintenance.org) Or maybe have a section in worg/org-contribute.org? An extension to "Write add-ons" item. And, of course, we need to announce this to the existing maintainers. Upcoming Emacsconf may be a good opportunity. -- Ihor Radchenko, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at https://orgmode.org/. Support Org development at https://liberapay.com/org-mode, or support my work at https://liberapay.com/yantar92