From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Matt Lundin Subject: Re: Org suggestion: option which allows moving subtrees freely Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:09:36 -0400 Message-ID: <87iqgu33an.fsf@fastmail.fm> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mar3D-0003aD-J1 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:06:03 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mar37-0003ZJ-CK for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:06:01 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=54916 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mar35-0003ZB-Lz for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:05:56 -0400 Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]:49157) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mar35-0002ht-98 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:05:55 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Leo's message of "Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:15:25 +0100") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Leo Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Leo writes: > On 2009-08-11 10:24 +0100, PT wrote: >> Often I want to move an item or a subtree to an other location >> with M-up/down and I get the message "Cannot move past superior >> level". >> >> I think there could be an option allowing this behavior. In >> practice I found sometimes it would be quicker and easier to move >> stuff under a different heading in the same file by simply using >> Meta+cursor keys than using the refill interface. > > I agree with Carsten and Tassilo. I don't see this as an improvement. > C-k and C-y is easy enough to move substrees and it can move them > anywhere. I agree with Leo, Carsten, and Tassilo. When I move a subtree to a different tree entirely, I use C-k and C-y or refile. I appreciate that org/outline mode respects the integrity of the outline tree. Otherwise, IMO, M-up/down could easily wreak havoc with the structure of the document. - Matt