From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: org-mode for knowledge management Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 09:14:18 +0800 Message-ID: <87iojn1mhh.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87oatkkdes.fsf@wmi.amu.edu.pl> <87siiwc4gd.wl-n142857@gmail.com> <87fvevgvv9.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <871tqc3d2j.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87lhokd5ii.wl-n142857@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51698) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XdqcR-0005VU-7W for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 21:09:50 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XdqcH-0000xw-Hu for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 21:09:43 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:34144) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XdqcH-0000xX-AQ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 21:09:33 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XdqcF-00076O-LH for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 03:09:31 +0200 Received: from 50.56.99.223 ([50.56.99.223]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 03:09:31 +0200 Received: from eric by 50.56.99.223 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 03:09:31 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Daniel Clemente writes: > El Mon, 13 Oct 2014 10:42:28 +0800 Eric Abrahamsen va escriure: >> > >> > This is the bit I'm not sure about... >> > >> > * project_a >> > ** experiment about blah :proj_name:theme: >> > [2014-10-11] >> > >> > Did x, y, and z today. Will analyze results tomorrow. >> > >> > [2014-10-12] >> > >> > Wow. Interesting finding. This will help a lot and may be relevant to >> > future projects! >> > >> … >> >> Perhaps both links and tags are what you're after then: you could leave >> a link to the general finding inside "experiment about blah" (to remind >> yourself you took that note), but also use the tags to open Agendas on >> both project and theme, so you can see all the relevant information in >> one place. >> > > >> > * project_a >> > ** experiment about blah :proj_name:theme: > > I think it's crazy to use topics as tags. How many topics/themes are > there? Wikipedia counts many million. Names of topic are very > subjective. Topics are often mixed, split apart, refined, renamed, > grouped in supertopics, … > In org it's easy to remodel hierarchical headers but it's not easy to remodel tags (much less, hierarchical tags). Personally, I'm not trying to model all of human knowledge in my Org files! I suppose if you were an academic researcher it might be a bigger issue, but I count 71 different tags in my agenda files, and I don't feel overwhelmed. You can get a bit of tag hierarchy with tag groups, but admittedly only a bit. > So rather than: > > ** some construction :plastics_engineering: > > > I would have: > > Engineering.org: > * Plastics > * Houses > * … > > > I understand you use tags and „tag search“ to be able to look for > bits of a particular topic in a file which is not related to the > topic. > It would be better to have a tag that in addition links to a > particular tree. With that you'd have the freedom of tagging anything > and the flexibility of headers. > > Some brainstorming about how to link tags with headers: Two options: > > 1) There is a main tag in a header, and the other tags link to it (with C-c C-o you navigate to the main tag). > > proj1.org: > ** some construction :plastics_engineering: > > Engineering.org: :<<>>: > * Plastics > * Houses > * … > > > 2) You use links and you ask for backlinks > > proj1.org: > ** some construction [link to P] > > Engineering.org: > * Plastics > :ID: 1231212311122 > * Houses > * … > > And then… a key to *search for links to a header* („backlinks“). Can org do this now?. > E.g. you go to „Plastics“ and you search „all the backlinks found in > proj1.org“. Then you have the generic knowledge and in addition all > the bits of specific knowledge about that topic. > > > Maybe this is already possible… Whether it's useful, I don't know. To my knowledge, no one's implemented a reverse link lookup, but it should certainly be possible. Using the <<>> link notation as a tag, however, would probably end up being more work (and more confusing) than it's worth. E