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From: Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us>
Subject: Re: Using orgstruct-mode (or just org-cycle) in emacs-lisp-mode
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 22:47:42 +0100
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Hi Jonas,

Jonas Bernoulli <jonas@bernoul.li> writes:

> Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> writes:
>
>> Jonas Bernoulli <jonas@bernoul.li> writes:
>>
>>> Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> writes:
>>>
>>>> Jonas Bernoulli <jonas@bernoul.li> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.  But could you please change it to
>>>>>
>>>>>   (if (or outline-minor-mode orgstruct-mode)
>>>>>       (call-interactively #'show-children)
>>>>>     ...)
>>>>
>>>> You could set `orgstruct-mode' to a non-nil value whenever
>>>> `outline-minor-mode' is enabled.
>>>
>>> I could (instead I am currently just maintaining a local patch),
>>> but what is the reasoning for not just doing what I suggested?
>>
>> There is no reason for Org's core to know about `outline-minor-mode', or
>> any other minor mode in the wild.
>
> I wouldn't group `outline-minor-mode' among "any other minor mode
> in the wild", after all it was Outline which gave birth to Org and
> `outline-minor-mode' is part of `outline.el'.  Didn't Carsten write
> `outline-magic.el' (containing `outline-cycle') before moving on to
> greater things?  Unfortunately though `outline-magic.el' does not appear
> to have aged so well (at least that's how I remember it from when I last
> checked).

orgstruct-mode is a mess and we plan to address it.  When someone finds
the time to do so.  Indeed, there was a thread about the issue of
org-show-children some time ago.

Cheers,
Rasmus

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