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From: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
To: Jorge <jorge13515@gmail.com>
Cc: org mode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Bug: Several small documentation problems [8.3.6 (8.3.6-4-g4835be-elpaplus @ /home/jorge/.emacs.d/elpa/org-plus-contrib-20160926/)]
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 22:36:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87intexx22.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJR3Qncbq5fdfwV_BxOy60=C+COgp8S5dTxqspYoZF+=_PEZFQ@mail.gmail.com> (Jorge's message of "Thu, 29 Sep 2016 15:36:27 -0300")

Hello,

Jorge <jorge13515@gmail.com> writes:

> This is the first batch of documentation problems.  I will report the rest
> later, because preparing this first batch already took several hours.

Those are fixed, except the points below.

>   • When describing the behavior with C-u C-u, it wrongly substitutes
>     "grandparent" for "parent".

I think "grandparent" is correct. In the following document

  * H1
  ** H2
  Text<--point

"H2" is the parent headline of "Text" and as a consequence, "H1" is its
grandparent.

> • [info:org#Structure editing]
>   I looked at the code, and C-<RET> (org-insert-heading-respect-content) just
>   calls (org-insert-heading '(4) invisible-ok), so it has the same effect as
>   C-u M-<RET>.  The manual could mention that C-<RET> has the same effect as
>   C-u M-<RET>, to aid the user's learning process, as she would just need to
>   memorize this quick fact, instead of understanding both behaviors and
>   deducing they're equal).  Also the manual doesn't adequately explain the
>   effect of C-u M-<RET>.  And the description of C-<RET> is actually wrong:
>         Just like `M-<RET>', except when adding a new heading below the
>         current heading, the new heading is placed after the body instead
>         of before it.  This command works from anywhere in the entry.
>   /After the body/?  Doesn't it mean /after the entry/?  Besides, there are
>   additional differences: that M-<RET> may create a new plain list item, while
>   C-<RET> always creates a new heading, and that C-<RET> never splits the
>   heading.  Please rewrite the whole description.

You are right, M-RET and C-RET are confusing, and making C-u M-RET
a duplicate of C-RET is wasting some important keybinding. This was
discussed on this ML already (with Rasmus) but led nowhere so far.

In any case, it is more future-proof to not insist on the fact that
C-RET is C-u M-RET.

Thank you for this tedious, yet very important work.

Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-29 20:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-29 18:36 Bug: Several small documentation problems [8.3.6 (8.3.6-4-g4835be-elpaplus @ /home/jorge/.emacs.d/elpa/org-plus-contrib-20160926/)] Jorge
2016-09-29 20:36 ` Nicolas Goaziou [this message]
2016-09-30 13:36   ` Jorge
2016-10-01 22:36     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2016-10-02 19:40       ` Jorge
2016-10-04 10:03         ` Nicolas Goaziou

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