From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp10.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id 8Mz7AAiK4GEdlQAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 21:22:32 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp10.migadu.com with LMTPS id 8HhINQeK4GF17wAAG6o9tA (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 21:22:31 +0100 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A3D2931452 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 21:22:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1]:34982 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n86cA-0004OI-Gi for larch@yhetil.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 15:22:30 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45552) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n86a5-0003Wk-AQ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 15:20:21 -0500 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:55227) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n86a2-0004Fi-E3 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 15:20:21 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B4FF240103 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 21:20:16 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1642105216; bh=uIXdBWXdL6TJg54AZKHWlLkj/JyKyUTfTesaBIDRgKI=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=d5IfaB4BX6HMkVLePZXFxl2EhBDBKF0HnoJmmWNBmyoeNTdwispjCm0GrUrT1st3R 5+Z8F7SONI94XfrZ7OqJ5oXvNtiTAHJN2HVitGARPz9usqjCXlFwBbO5DvL3KYFTYQ Rw7sv09vjTRKSOZTwPv8wc7/n3PWCAcq7+RzjY+wWSSB57L4BMa7JrnYiz5csryhGN KMVqXEyPbIcrWQhPzfy3IcALX41sx0Qx7ujD8hoG61KcwhMnAEEnd6vTw8EmtEnEio tmP5MQbzakfkLnYWRcCXOF4SJrAwDR9BPPN2ujJIDtZWW/yggNiod8vVNJHqfOkByd EsiLaHTEG34ew== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4JZbQR5KQFz9rxS; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 21:20:15 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Juan_Manuel_Mac=C3=ADas?= To: fatiparty@tutanota.com Subject: Re: Playing down the text in org-mode References: <87bl0feahc.fsf@posteo.net-MtJnHBm----2> <87tue7ctis.fsf@posteo.net> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 20:20:13 +0000 In-Reply-To: (fatiparty@tutanota.com's message of "Thu, 13 Jan 2022 20:53:55 +0100 (CET)") Message-ID: <87iluncrr6.fsf@posteo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=maciaschain@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: orgmode Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1642105351; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=1YXeWwDNAlaGR66puTYNHhN7ukpnOwZ65idLq9mn3MY=; b=YJM5isolHVbxkl42WUBest2jqh8MbEudbHX2b9nKEb9TUYtTCr+XusMolSNk+5Gw1yUcMK AMu+rQ2oum5xhSz/GUiNcY+kWkmdvXyOLc+cmTATcZKVzxPNCE1vOhbL37KKeEfVpc2dMN zOI3YWA4kSPBDmLl4FssxVsWZOycAbMCCtr7JKjzudLjtYZtC0fV69VmcJjoBWQchzKDyP 8Vj4LOR3mzqueYdGmXe/8No+3rUq6fDwy/x1r0UkQVnPzfPlkDlXF2PcYZ+EZHMBNvU/nu cgHlgXXprTWg4p4ICg9LzcY5fecTChijwcYSunOVTMgUP7a7hVfQ4Md9zUr8jw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1642105351; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=PyfXyjMPp+TE07vT4KBKZLzKfB5QICkMnU/uV6edpEL5weAC+l5O3F3eKX/kNVd/PMyE7P 1+mPNkKwK4Q9afaKuJkNi1ah6+NSRKcfEUEac6rT3A+cVhsghrLdiTUgxmFtMc4c8E8xOJ fHo4KryHTXQgW+UydnWPa5wFaxOkrgqub1zqvG5/P1ORE41mrzGy1MI2T85vuUe2AtPeTE cv/g4eX7nBHAoklR0upGb+Ro99/uxKPMa8xcOwSzqQOw2HP/TFznFwioiVIj6XmDlvfDrT IETOjm7cFDHOd5q5xF0LBf8JmHlXGBbiJi6COnksNbGh+GmA/w1q93m0HpbyZg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=d5IfaB4B; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.82 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.net header.s=2017 header.b=d5IfaB4B; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: A3D2931452 X-Spam-Score: -5.82 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: JGCGlUrLHqYG fatiparty@tutanota.com writes: > I am discussing something slightly different. > > Here is normal text within -which there is some understated text- before continuing with normal text. Yes, it seems that I have understood you horribly wrong, sorry for the noise (it must be the effects of the third modern vaccine that they gave me yesterday :-) In short, what you want is that a part of the text is "obscured" in some way with respect to the main body text, and you would like Org to have some marks for it. I see an important basic problem: there are many procedures to reduce the reading importance of a text: simply pass that text to a footnote, use dashes, parentheses or brackets, put the text in a smaller size (which is the usual when these passages are isolated paragraphs). I think it is better to define all these questions in the output formats, through post-processing, and in Org use macros, custom links, special blocks, the procedure that John has shared here, etc. But a "universal" no-emphasis mark doesn't seem viable to me, IMHO. Best regards, Juan Manuel