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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1647954606; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=DU1109sLeCguL+U+55JqjnzLfp1qlqRzDRVrRkKJt18=; b=qHynYW0PZmUvL1CVZmIKJ6ngTR6PzxV+QhfnrI3H1pK+QKt6q5oF7tY04L9Qd/X5m26jsM pSUpRkTAT2IlJf4/mbyJuPglt0hlLU6tHUr9+H74cLvlyi2P5V5oliZ03IHbrEa73+a7Wz ga0eQ4m6wa23CA4oy5O9WekJmx9eueMwK30HsvVePSYi5OXvKGtGX8/6wO5O3xROGZaIW9 lKPvPleTfS9ulrtagERWH98yoRNzE9QjJHavn0iH6jUcjs1BOqnHanoMBhIdVXo5NLhAPl F0QHlv+RPnJNbjulieUGDIHwNYFoSjzGrWrcq3TVVW6FSBMNW86OmsO6nhPbuQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1647954606; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=mnWQngVIG6wMUOEclVJGlQVEs4wSXlgzRThf+tRy7GtzLIBYrexkRy5lmpyRmbe7Sul1e9 PxEW2lWnDIfasN8L01KufTewRQzBlQjJ8yc6tXaOXbe1wHgPEJHRCX7gfBWTYHfokg06Ve 1KKBifKTWoxiPBaALxAydbSqS94NzUbhxSi2RoLoAxkGIfv5bfuINpVdi3Hypzy1admP9Z mMLvlrT499e55+2y0snrUJcH73z9lTFsqIpL3BOThJNouddl5nabV4OI9S3koMa4mBJ3uD rFT2f5vx/IYWutFz88riFEasr+bUsvdLs2hBsWmwuoJTe+fSH6+9OluTy0bJOg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=libre.brussels header.s=mail header.b=di9lUy0Z; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=libre.brussels; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.11 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=libre.brussels header.s=mail header.b=di9lUy0Z; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=libre.brussels; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 3DD7A31185 X-Spam-Score: -4.11 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: bKh4Ffmhc2Sw Hi Juh, juh writes: > [[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]] > Am Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 08:31:29PM -0400 schrieb John Kitchin: >> For those who need high fidelity LaTeX export like I do, I think >> org-ref is still a superior solution. For everyone else, and >> especially if you do not need sophisticated cross-references and don't >> want the dependencies of org-ref, org-cite is likely the better >> solution. > > Thank you very much for the clarification. > > I am new to both and I need something that works together with ConTeXt > export. Currently I am happy with org-cite. I used org-ref before but > never got good results in ConTeXt export. So I think that I will stick > wit org-cite. > I used to use ConTeXt and have a healthy respect for it. That feedback is good to hear. > Org-mode is not LaTeX but I wonder if it can be a better replacement for > my Markdown-->Pandoc-->EPUB/ConTeXt single source publication process. > Better as I could make more use of org-roam in my writing process. > May I recommend the mininimal Markdown format, GemText? It has a very simple syntax which is easily convertable into Orgmode syntax. It could be useful for projects where the flow starts with simple written prose. > Though I am a long time emacs user putting all these blocks together is > a challenge, still. > > With your words I now see much much clearer. > > juh Jonathan