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Also, see org-class, which will automatically skips holidays (let's just ignore the issue with time zones and holidays, please; just accept the limitation) Some real word examples of diary sexps scheduling in the wild: - https://emacs-apac.gitlab.io/ :: <%%(diary-float t 6 4)> - https://emacs-berlin.org/ :: <%%(diary-float t 3 -1)> Finally, religious holidays can be defined and Nth weekday before/after month/date. Some people even use diary sexps exclusively. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at