From: Marie-Helene Burle <mhburle@gmail.com>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [BUG] org-element-at-point: Throw an error when not in org-mode [9.7-pre (release_9.6.15-1033-gd8586f @ /home/marie/.emacs.d/straight/build/org/)]
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2024 10:48:42 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87il47libr.fsf@westdri.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87il486jyv.fsf@localhost>
Hi Ihor,
Thank you for your reply and your explanations: very useful to learn how the system works 🙂
Prior to org 9.7, I used to use `org-meta-return` everywhere to nicely add elements to a list. Whether in mu4e, markdown, or anywhere, typing:
- item1 <org-meta-return>
Would nicely give me:
- item1
-
Not a big deal you will say. But I liked the behaviour.
I know that org functions (with the exception of `org-open-at-point-global` and maybe a few others intended to work everywhere) are only supposed to work in org buffers. But many functions actually used to work outside of org, even if that was never intended. I took advantage of that 😄
So, indeed, not a bug and probably nothing you want to worry about. I'll just have to learn to live without those nice little org behaviours in non-org buffers.
Note that the Reddit thread I linked in my prior email suggests that I am not the only one who took advantage of this. I don't know what org function that other user was using in non-org buffer, but it used to work and stopped in 9.7.
Deep thanks for all the work,
Best,
Marie
--
Marie-Helene Burle
Research Solutions Specialist
Research Computing | Simon Fraser University
Digital Research Alliance of Canada
https://www.sfu.ca/~msb2/
Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> writes:
> Marie-Helene Burle <mhburle@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> I suspect that this has already been reported as I saw it here: https://www.mail-archive.com/emacs-elpa-diffs@gnu.org/msg102743.html.
>
> This is just a reference to the commit that introduced the explicit
> error. Do note that the error got downgraded to a warning in a more
> recent development version of Org mode. But the warning still indicates
> inappropriate usage of Org functions that are designed to work in Org
> mode and expect Org mode buffer.
>
>> Just wanted to make sure it got to the right channel. Apologies for a
>> useless message if it already did.
>>
>> Noticed this problem with org 9.7. Used to be no problem with prior version.
>>
>> Also mentioned in https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/18gkx0i/orgelementatpoint_cannot_be_used_in_nonorg_buffer/.
>
>> In my case, I get the error when using `org-meta-return` in non-org buffers.
>
>> I then get either of these error messages:
>>
>> Warning (org-element): ‘org-element-at-point’ cannot be used in non-Org buffer
>> Warning (org-element): org-element--cache: Org parser error in <my-file>. Resetting.
>
> `org-meta-return' cannot be used in non-Org buffers. Just as the error
> states. May you please explain why you are trying to use Org mode
> command outside Org mode?
>
> Not a bug, although we can still discuss your use case.
> Canceled. (as a bug)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-01-05 18:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-01-04 20:46 [BUG] org-element-at-point: Throw an error when not in org-mode [9.7-pre (release_9.6.15-1033-gd8586f @ /home/marie/.emacs.d/straight/build/org/)] Marie-Helene Burle
2024-01-05 12:30 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-05 18:48 ` Marie-Helene Burle [this message]
2024-01-05 19:07 ` Marie-Helene Burle
2024-01-05 19:13 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-05 19:53 ` Marie-Helene Burle
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