From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Bernt Hansen Subject: Re: Beginners guide to Org customization Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:01:01 -0500 Message-ID: <87hc38lq5e.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> References: <33DFD2BB-A6FC-43AE-9DE0-5E5DE0802F4A@uva.nl> <87fxitotfy.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> <63BCC59E-17BD-4D7C-9F7C-6C284C8ABAEA@uva.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LV8XV-0008Rw-OT for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:01:25 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LV8XU-0008Qt-Ad for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:01:25 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35721 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LV8XU-0008Qi-3d for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:01:24 -0500 Received: from mho-02-bos.mailhop.org ([63.208.196.179]:55784) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LV8XS-0001n0-RE for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:01:23 -0500 In-Reply-To: <63BCC59E-17BD-4D7C-9F7C-6C284C8ABAEA@uva.nl> (Carsten Dominik's message of "Thu\, 5 Feb 2009 18\:29\:23 +0100") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Carsten Dominik Cc: emacs-orgmode Mailinglist Carsten, That looks really good! (except for the FIXME at the bottom ;) ) I really like this version :) I haven't verified that the setup steps you described actually work. Somebody(tm) should probably do that with a minimal emacs setup. I also haven't verified all the links referenced in the document go to appropriate places. Hmmm my setup doesn't have (org-remember-insinuate) (well it does now!) -- I wonder what breaks if that is missing. -Bernt Carsten Dominik writes: > I have my home^h^h^h^h trainwork up as a new > attempt for the "Beginners Guide". > A lot more appropriate now, I think. Bernt? > > - Carsten > > http://orgmode.org/worg/org-customization-guide.php > > > On Feb 5, 2009, at 3:21 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote: > >> Carsten Dominik writes: >> >>> I have made a structured list of 43 (which one can >>> we remove, please????) Variables that came in as frequently >>> customized variables in the customization survey. It is not >>> exactly the top 43, I have used some additional judgement. >> >> I think a lot of these variables are things you play with _after_ >> using >> org-mode for awhile. Maybe the following variables should be >> introduced >> later? >> >> - org-archive-location >> >> the default works, and you don't archive anytime soon after >> starting >> to use org-mode. >> >> - org-startup-folded >> >> start with #STARTUP first? >> >> - org-odd-levels-only >> >> Talk about the conversion functions too (org-convert-to-odd-levels >> and org-convert-to-oddeven-levels.) I switched my files back and >> forth a few times but ended up with oddeven levels due to the depth >> of some of my tasks. >> >> - org-special-ctrl-a/e >> - org-special-ctrl-k >> >> I should maybe try these one day :) >> >> I've used org-mode for a few years now and I don't currently use these >> variables. They're great to have but not essential to getting started. >> >> The default values for the variables work in most cases. I think the >> ones that should be listed first are the ones you really have to >> customize to get org-mode to work for you. Beginners will not want >> nor >> need this amount of detail to be productive with org-mode. Having too >> many variables to set up or play with up front may just scare people >> away. >> >> Maybe we just need to stress that customizations are optional and you >> can completely ignore entire sections that don't apply to you >> (clocking, >> exporting, etc.) until you feel you need these additional features. >> >> HTH, >> Bernt