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From: Bernt Hansen <bernt@norang.ca>
To: Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl>
Cc: emacs-orgmode Mailinglist <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Beginners guide to Org customization
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:01:01 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87hc38lq5e.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <63BCC59E-17BD-4D7C-9F7C-6C284C8ABAEA@uva.nl> (Carsten Dominik's message of "Thu\, 5 Feb 2009 18\:29\:23 +0100")

Carsten,

That looks really good! (except for the FIXME at the bottom ;) )

I really like this version :)

I haven't verified that the setup steps you described actually work.
Somebody(tm) should probably do that with a minimal emacs setup.

I also haven't verified all the links referenced in the document go to
appropriate places.

Hmmm my setup doesn't have (org-remember-insinuate) (well it does
now!) -- I wonder what breaks if that is missing.

-Bernt

Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:

> I have my home^h^h^h^h trainwork up as a new
> attempt for the "Beginners Guide".
> A lot more appropriate now, I think.  Bernt?
>
> - Carsten
>
> http://orgmode.org/worg/org-customization-guide.php
>
>
> On Feb 5, 2009, at 3:21 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote:
>
>> Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
>>
>>> I have made a structured list of 43 (which one can
>>> we remove, please????) Variables that came in as frequently
>>> customized variables in the customization survey.  It is not
>>> exactly the top 43, I have used some additional judgement.
>>
>> I think a lot of these variables are things you play with _after_
>> using
>> org-mode for awhile.  Maybe the following variables should be
>> introduced
>> later?
>>
>>  - org-archive-location
>>
>>    the default works, and you don't archive anytime soon after
>> starting
>>    to use org-mode.
>>
>>  - org-startup-folded
>>
>>    start with #STARTUP first?
>>
>>  - org-odd-levels-only
>>
>>    Talk about the conversion functions too (org-convert-to-odd-levels
>>    and org-convert-to-oddeven-levels.)  I switched my files back and
>>    forth a few times but ended up with oddeven levels due to the depth
>>    of some of my tasks.
>>
>>  - org-special-ctrl-a/e
>>  - org-special-ctrl-k
>>
>>    I should maybe try these one day :)
>>
>> I've used org-mode for a few years now and I don't currently use these
>> variables. They're great to have but not essential to getting started.
>>
>> The default values for the variables work in most cases.  I think the
>> ones that should be listed first are the ones you really have to
>> customize to get org-mode to work for you.  Beginners will not want
>> nor
>> need this amount of detail to be productive with org-mode.  Having too
>> many variables to set up or play with up front may just scare people
>> away.
>>
>> Maybe we just need to stress that customizations are optional and you
>> can completely ignore entire sections that don't apply to you
>> (clocking,
>> exporting, etc.) until you feel you need these additional features.
>>
>> HTH,
>> Bernt

  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-05 18:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-05 11:54 Carsten Dominik
2009-02-05 13:25 ` David Lord
2009-02-05 13:52   ` Carsten Dominik
2009-02-05 14:21 ` Bernt Hansen
2009-02-05 14:34   ` Carsten Dominik
2009-02-05 17:29   ` Carsten Dominik
2009-02-05 18:01     ` Bernt Hansen [this message]
2009-02-05 21:40       ` Carsten Dominik
2009-02-05 18:13     ` Graham Smith
2009-02-06 11:09 Rustom Mody

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