From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Bernt Hansen Subject: Re: [OT] retrieving old messages Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 19:19:02 -0500 Message-ID: <87hbf5ndhk.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> References: <877hhudxor.fsf@mundaneum.com> <87sk0inmys.fsf@stats.ox.ac.uk> <807hhnfaix.fsf@mundaneum.com> <87mxqiv7q3.wl%ucecesf@ucl.ac.uk> <87lj4hnpid.fsf@gollum.intra.norang.ca> <87lj4h2k53.fsf_-_@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=58899 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PLm1y-00029d-Rp for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 19:19:15 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PLm1w-0001YA-Sv for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 19:19:14 -0500 Received: from mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org ([204.13.248.72]:59263) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PLm1w-0001Wj-Qr for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 19:19:12 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87lj4h2k53.fsf_-_@gmail.com> (Dan Davison's message of "Thu, 25 Nov 2010 21:00:56 +0000") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Dan Davison Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Dan Davison writes: > Bernt Hansen writes: > >> Dan writes: >> >>> Incidentally, can any gnus users tell me -- is there a non-painful way of >>> retrieving an old message from nntp in order to create a reply in the correct >>> thread? Or do you hack the headers to make it appear in the right thread? I'm >>> using the gmane web interface to send this. >> >> I read the list through gnus and gmane. When I'm in the summary buffer >> for the org-mode list I can retrieve old messages with >> >> / O 500 RET >> >> to get the last 500 messages from the list. > > Thanks Bernt and Seb, but that was the route I was referring to when I > said "painful" :) The list volume is quite high, and retrieving > thousands of messages takes a while. And of course you go for 1500 and > it turns out to be message 1728... > > It seems a rather primitive practice, can we really not do better? Is it > not possible to use a unique identifier to pull down a specific message? > (I was not reading usenet or whatever it was called in the 1980s; I > don't really know anything about these technologies.) Hi Dan, I also make org-capture mode links to interesting messages when I read them if I intend to follow up on it at a later time. So on a gnus-message I just do C-M-r and create a task that links to the mail. This means I can open the linked message directly from the captured org-mode task with C-c C-o and just reply to that - and the reply is threaded properly. This is my preferred way to do this type of thing. My email links to org-mode articles on gmane look like this: [[gnus:nntp%2Bnews.gmane.org:gmane.emacs.orgmode#4CEE66D5.2030909@gmail.com][Email from Rainer M. Krug: OT: Question concerning vc-wor]] When retrieving old messages with / O 500 RET it gets the next 500 older messages you haven't already retrieved -- so if you're at 1500 and you need to get to 1728 ... you just need to / O 228 RET to get the rest of the way. I rarely search though the entire list of messages for old stuff - but I find this method of searching in Gnus much better than any web based search -- since the message id isn't available in the gmane web archives as far as I know. -Bernt