From: "François Pinard" <pinard@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: gnus: link annoyance
Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2014 00:36:02 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ha9g2w1p.fsf@iro.umontreal.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874n5hca77.fsf@pank.eu> (rasmus@gmx.us's message of "Mon, 06 Jan 2014 18:05:32 +0100")
Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us> writes:
> Thanks for working on org-grep. It looks interesting.
Thanks for thanking! :-) But deep down, I'm really doing this tool for
myself, and only then share it with others. Given the amount of notes I
handle, such a tool is inescapable, it is a question of survival :-).
>> Whenever I visit a "gnus:" type link from Org, it has the side effect of
>> "reading" the article in Gnus parlance, forcing me to "unread" it each
>> time afterwards.
> Excuse me if I misunderstood something below. You read it, no? How
> can it not be marked read when you read it?
The list gnus-mark-article-hook, which is there for customization, has
the function gnus-summary-mark-read-and-unread-as-read by default. I
guess that if the hook list was empty, articles would be displayed and
not automatically marked as read.
> Perhaps you would like to the following on mailgroups you care about
> (from the *Groups* buffer):
> G c C-s Display S-TAB RET TAB RET 1 TAB 100 M-< TAB TAB RET
> Also, you can search with nnir using GG or C-u GG (but links probably
> won't work from a nnir buffer).
I would not think one should modify his Gnus habits or methods merely
because Org has a tool to search in Gnus. Org uses Gnus, but Gnus
should not be disturbed because of that.
> 1. Mark an article as important with '!',
> (gnus-summary-tick-article-forward N)
But I do not want to tick (or bang) articles because I do Org searches.
When really in Gnus, if I want to keep an article, I unread it. But
that does not mean I consider this article especially important. If I
want to mark an article as important, I bang it, and as a consequence,
Gnus unread it. Banging all articles I want to keep unread is not only
overkill, but it spoils the bang mark, which I find very useful for
other purposes than Org.
> I can also change the mark to gnus-summary-mark-as-expirable and
> preserve the link.
One possibility (untested, so I'm not sure) is that when following a
"gnus:" link, Org could use something like:
(let ((gnus-mark-article-hook nil))
(ACCESS-THE-gnus:-LINK))
François
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-01-07 5:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-01-06 13:48 gnus: link annoyance François Pinard
2014-01-06 16:39 ` Nick Dokos
2014-01-07 5:14 ` François Pinard
2014-01-07 12:07 ` Nick Dokos
2014-01-07 15:28 ` François Pinard
2014-01-07 19:06 ` Achim Gratz
2014-01-08 1:37 ` François Pinard
2014-01-08 15:15 ` Bastien
2014-01-06 17:05 ` Rasmus
2014-01-07 5:36 ` François Pinard [this message]
2014-01-07 9:00 ` Bastien
2014-01-07 14:13 ` François Pinard
2014-01-07 13:01 ` Rasmus
2014-01-07 14:34 ` François Pinard
2014-01-07 13:28 ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2014-01-07 15:02 ` François Pinard
2014-01-07 17:09 ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2014-01-07 17:43 ` Nick Dokos
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