From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Bastien Subject: Re: [RFC] Move ox-koma-letter into core? Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 19:12:28 +0100 Message-ID: <87ha8yjzeb.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> References: <878uueciku.fsf@gmail.com> <55F46D73-2430-4831-ABE9-D66AE03647E7@gmail.com> <874n50cdnu.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87mwisrrv8.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87k3dwaw98.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87r482wo2k.fsf@Rainer.invalid> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56408) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W5JKw-0006Kw-5Q for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 13:12:42 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W5JKq-00052S-9C for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 13:12:38 -0500 Received: from mail-wi0-x22e.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::22e]:48514) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W5JKq-00051l-1B for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 13:12:32 -0500 Received: by mail-wi0-f174.google.com with SMTP id g10so3518071wiw.1 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 10:12:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87r482wo2k.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (Achim Gratz's message of "Mon, 20 Jan 2014 18:38:43 +0100") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Achim Gratz Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Achim Gratz writes: > You didn't answer the question of what you want contrib to be or I'm too > dense to find where. I want contributed Org libraries to be maintained in a separate Git repository the same what the GNU ELPA packages are maintained in their own repository, outside Emacs. > You keep talking about an Org ELPA that doesn't exist AFAICT Org ELPA does exist: http://orgmode.org/elpa.html http://orgmode.org/elpa/archive-contents http://orgmode.org/elpa/ What I'm missing? > and about your > expectation of unspecified advantages that this might have. The main advantages I see: 1. it would clarify the representation of Org's ecosystem for the users; 2. it would make it easier to discover Org contributed packages by using the Emacs packaging system facilities; 2. this way we won't need to give write access to Org's core for contributors who only maintain a contributed package. The first two points are the most important, since we never had problems with contributors. M-x list-packages RET is the way users expect to find packages. A new Org exporter should be listed there, not in within some obscure "org-plus-contrib" package, and not from a directory. > Again, > please clearly state what you want this to be as well as why and how it > is better than what we have now. I want this this to be a separate Git repo the same way GNU ELPA is a separate git repo from Emacs (that's the "what"); because it is better in terms of discoverability (M-x list-packages RET); and this is better because it reuses what users have learned to use recently. >>> If you are suggesting to remove the history of contrib from Org's repo, >>> then I'm against it. >> >> Why? > > For starters, that would require everyone maintaining their own branches > to also migrate (or abandon) them. You'd need a _really_ good reason to > do this and so far I see none. If that's a blocker, we can move forward only removing the contrib/ directory, not the Git history. I'm fine with this, and that's much easier. I feel like I won't convince you and this is not my decision, so I'll stop advocating for this to happen, I just hope it will. -- Bastien