From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Bastien Subject: Re: [RFC] Proposal for rebindings in Org 8.3 Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 09:01:16 +0100 Message-ID: <87ha88r9yr.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> References: <87eh3f9pss.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87eh3eex15.fsf@alphaville.bos.redhat.com> <87bnyhscai.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87y51lqlmt.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59877) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WCPKP-0003wb-C1 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 03:01:31 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WCPKI-0007Aj-T3 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 03:01:25 -0500 Received: from rs249.mailgun.us ([209.61.151.249]:58204) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WCPKI-0007Af-OW for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 03:01:18 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Samuel Wales's message of "Sat, 8 Feb 2014 15:58:49 -0700") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Samuel Wales Cc: Nick Dokos , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hi Samuel, Samuel Wales writes: > i meant that c-c c-' and c-c c-" are both cumbersome for those users > who press c-c by holding down the control key with the right hand and > then pressing c with the left hand. c-c ' is not cumbersome for those > users. I understand better now, thanks. What I don't understand is why keeping the right control key between C-c and C-' is harder than releasing the control key between C-c and ' (or " as also proposed.) My experience (which seems the same than Nick's) is that holding the control key down is easier/faster. (I wonder if any serious ergonomical study has been done for Emacs beybindings depending on keyboards.) -- Bastien