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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1658892234; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=DT/vvbu5jOQIKTcCptGozZfCufc6/NvIZWtk2XcWoVE=; b=KLxzjLDYm6wiMbTp+l2Yn6C15O9C+8NYEB0zJwmO5VdJFmKl8o8vGxuMas4IacQV2T9BNb EO9eXr1HpSYKCWQxpuOaY4OxVfZMv/R172YK2hDY8cAWma7vk2aqv4AaicSgGBr/BtiDxt fhYxrYyLl8uBMShGsyyeqxPj44Kp650IPrh3NKNHsF2xgo+hTr6ZMAT9TthlZLV0/ZJ081 2u8KwjaZgGIxyDvaSQ0GkcM9RgNFxJ27W5qe36z0n4nl2ZXgMEOnZzh99EZ0a4sLZRz/bq VYDn50FHIJ4Aqw0IsJ7M2tpLqrU2b3TvsNeHFrnLbsN+zfoUQ5OjKSiI+G73OA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1658892234; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=UjEJwzlQCNO3fyANXceQc2DVUc74UVYOm28ydi3bTvwCkJCl2AfbkOiDemwLn/Kd6OaAZU +V6zefEB48XanEIcu0oYbfaoytoidl6arO/Ub3DCSFgHqeoIzcTwISHbLCYRXroLD70ZeU rYciwvfLjaMPUWEskrN7XeOUp680M2WwZp8VfNDoFzSTkMJgMC1xxZRpdkEvCmpr16GD/6 J3X/QVaHDFQ/edu5qCeYdS6qX6wVF682JbZ6Z2VWyMYxlmt0D8bbFWeZK8lxMA00KfiQDw 83M9wxJJ1hOgxIOPTpIWPZvonnXc8rNV+TKZn0in30VpFCyHFtHbrblnfiOFFA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=iuVJhnS9; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.93 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=iuVJhnS9; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: C92B5D0EC X-Spam-Score: -1.93 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: cGyxw4YbLIrD Jarmo Hurri writes: >> The advantage of maintaining ob-asymptote.el in the main asymptote >> repo is that people who are intimately familiar with the asymptote >> features can directly contribute and enhance the Org >> integration. Moreover, distributing together with the asymptote means >> no headache with back-compatibility issues. >> >> Maintaining on Org side will have an advantage of using the latest >> additions to Org babel features. >> >> I feel like it is more important to make use of the asymptote features >> if its devs are going to be interested. Of course, IMHO. > > I have a very bad feeling about tying ob-asymptote.el with Asymptote, > and I am trying to put my finger on this feeling. I think the problem is > this one. > > ob-asymptote.el is coupled very loosely with Asymptote. Basically the > only thing ob-asymptote.el requires from Asymptote is the ability to > call the executable with some established parameters. > > Then again, ob-asymptote.el is coupled much more tightly with Org. It > uses many more properties of Org (Babel) than of the Asymptote > program. > > As a result, changes in Org are much more likely to affect > ob-asymptote.el than changes in Asymptote. I think basic software > development rules of thumb suggest that ob-asymptote.el should then be > bundled with Org. >From my point of view ob-asymptote.el is as bare bones as babel library can be. It does not use any fancy Org babel features like sessions, error display of converting the output to various :results output options. In contrast, it does a lot of work trying to convert Elisp types to Asymptote in `org-babel-asymptote-var-to-asymptote`. Of course, my view is a subject of discussion. Or maybe you have plans to implement advanced Org babel features for Asymptote. IDK. >From my point of view, any kind of new functionality in ob-asymptote.el requires a deep knowledge about the Asymptote programming - the knowledge most of the Org devs lack. At the same time, changes in Org babel core functionality are unlikely to cause any issues in ob-asymptote - we try our best to keep backwards compatibility with third-party babel packages anyway. Best, Ihor